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The expiration of a federal grant will halt a popular suburban commuter bus service at year’s end, but transit advocates say it may be just a temporary stoppage.

Launched a few years ago, the IndyGo Commuter Express routes from Fishers and Carmel to downtown Indianapolis get 80 percent of their funding from a Congestion Mitigation Air Quality grant that will be depleted by the end of the year. The service has annual expenses of just over $1 million.

Other funding comes from $3-per-trip fares, and ridership has been strong enough to pay the local match to the federal grant solely through those fares, without the municipalities chipping in. During the course of operation, the routes have provided about 445,000 trips.

But without additional subsidy, the cost of providing that service would be placed on riders, who would face fares of between $7 and $9.

IndyGo and the Central Indiana Regional Transit Authority are optimistic they can find other funding sources. CIRTA is looking at other grants, among them federal funding that helps pay for so-called reverse commuting in which workers leave the city for work in the suburbs, but that also would require cash-tight municipalities to contribute.

“All indications point to a likelihood that a new federal grant will be matched with local public and private dollars, and a new commuter express service will evolve in the near future,” Ehren Bingaman, executive director for CIRTA, said in a news release.

He said the group hoped to have details confirmed and would provide more information by the end of the year.

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  • Buses
    I work for the company that actually operates this service. While we're talking about funding, let's also include the dozen or so jobs that are directly involved with this operation - and, no, they're not $500k/yr by any stretch. What CIRTA should be doing is looking at the additional locales which could benefit from this service. I'd note that the attempt to the south wasn't as successful (Greenwood) as the Northeast Corridor. Whether Greenfield would use the service is anyone's guess, as would be Mooresville, Plainfield, Danville, Brownsburg, or Zionsville. These questions also are the ones the proposed commuter rail service has to be able to address and answer, of course.
  • I would rather....
    subsidize mass transit than "Palaces for the rich," downtown (Lucas Oil) that I will never see the inside of.
  • Sick-n-tired...
    I'm tired of my gas-tax money subsidizing the highways that Greenfield commuters use to get downtown. (I live and work in Indy and don't use the interstate.)


    And while we're at it, let's add a commuter tax so that Sick-n-tired and the other commuters pay for infrastructure and services (police, fire, ambulance, water, sewer, streets) that they use while commuting and working in Indy.

    Why in the world should my hard-earned money be used to subsidize and protect someone commuting 25 miles from Greenfield to Downtown?
  • Let it die !!!
    Consider this. In it's vast wisdom, our government has deeply discounted 445,000 rides at $3. That's 115,000 trips per year at an annual cost of about $1,000,000, or so they say. That's a total cost of $8.69 per ride. Now, keep in mind, our government taxes us first and runs it through some department where people making 6 figures... and a pension... have to manage it. Let's say it's another $2 per ride management cost. We're at $10.69 per ride on taxpayers like me. I work downtown too, but live in Greenfield. Even if the bus served my area, I would exercise my Freedom and choose to drive with all costs paid by me! In any case, the buses come nowhere near me. Why in the world should my hard earned money be used to subsidize someone else's ride to work? And you wonder what's wrong with our government. I bet if we looked hard we could find thousands of examples like this. It would be rather easy to make a huge dent in our deficit by eliminating ridiculous programs like this. Let it die!
  • Reverse commuting?
    I'm a faithful Fishers rider and I hope they keep this going somehow. Not sure how reverse commuting would work though. Eastern Star Church is smack in the middle of residential.

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  2. These quaint,obsessed musings by the stalkers are certainly entertaining, but I'm trying to figure out what, if anything, all the yelping below has to do with Zak Brown.

  3. It's evident that Moffett was pushing the right buttons and corporate America is now trying to squash him. He just wanted to withdraw the free pilot services provided to the company by the pilots to try and put some pressure on a company that has not been interested in negotiating a contract in over 5 years. The company does not provide a contract because not having one has saved them a bundle of money. Shame on any Republic pilots not standing behind their union leader just because things are getting tough, can you not see such strategic moves by the company as putting the last union president in a corporate position and into THEIR pocket. Do you really believe the last union president is so appalled at the attempts by Moffett, do you not remember his oppositions to the company? We stood behind him. It has been proven over and over again for thousands of years without fail, a man cannot serve two masters. Anyone that believes people vote contrary to their paycheck and livelihood deserve to be taken advantage of, the recent statements by the former union president are laughable as he denounces the current union president from his new corporate position. Have you ever seen a drafted sports player score points for his previous team, it cannot be done, he is not on the pilots side anymore, he gets his money a different way now than you and I do, and he should not be allowed to remain on the seniority list. A drafted player brings strength, credibility, tactical knowledge, and a strategic advantage to his NEW team, he would not be drafted or paid were it otherwise. We are all forced to choose only one side to play for and support, not doing so has many references in life such as insider trading and shaving points, all illegal for good reason. This basic fact is why corporate moguls, scientist, and engineers all sign non-discloser agreements and non-compete clauses, as protection in case they are lured into switching sides as our former union president has done. No NFL coach ever drafted a player so that both teams could benefit and better understand each other, they are recruited to win the game against that former team, period. Likewise the company does not recruit the former union president by accident or mutual understanding, its strategy. Don't confuse playing the game with good sportsman-like conduct in support of common business and prosperity goals, with the requirement to only play for one side. Good men we all love and favor fall subject to this manipulation, often without their knowledge, and it is not a betrayal of their friendship to oppose them when they switch sides. If we did not love and trust them, they would not have been chosen and lured to the other side in the first place. The deception by the drafted player is not made at a conscious level, it's just human nature and it's all about money and power which corrupts our ability to be objective and loyal to two masters. This is why our court system created the defense attorney, and why our military created counter intelligence. Its strategy and its propaganda, and it works, and that's why the "powers to be" manipulate the chess pieces by sometimes changing their colors. Some players know they are being manipulated when their color is changed, but it brings them more money and power so they do not care. The rest have good intentions but do not even realize they are being manipulated. This tactic is also known by another name, Divide and Conquer. In battle sending an imperfect message with an imperfect team is obviously not ideal, but it's still being sent by YOUR team, your union leader, a leader that has common goals and common rewards with you, they are the best, because we have elected them to do a job for us. If you are not backing Moffett but believing the spin by those that have recently switched sides, you are taking food out of your own mouth. Showing unity and backing an imperfect situation still results in taking just as much ground, it's about unity and bargaining power. It's not necessary to wait around for that perfect attack because it will never come, the company will spin and attempt to destroy anyone that gets in their way. Ultimately it's not about any specific attack anyway, ASAP or whatever it makes no difference, it is and always has been only about power. If this company cared about safety it would not build pairings with 8 hour overnights, come on, are you that naive? 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Would the Teamsters National not normally support and leverage a contract for all those pilots that have been paying Teamster dues, isn't that why we have all been paying Teamster dues in the first place? I sure haven't been paying dues so that the Teamsters National could come along and write this kind of an article undercutting our union leader and our unity. Whose side is the Teamsters National really on, it's obviously not the Republic pilots side.

  4. No matter what Moffatt does the company is going to spin it like he is the terrorist and brainwash people like you into believing it, wake up, back your players that are trying to change things for you and your livelihood. Where has Hoffa been for the last 6 years, except collecting our dues. Seriously, do you really think an FO going for upgrade, signed off by a checkairman ready for the upgrade, who then fails, is not even capable of returning as a First Officer.

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