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Members sue consumer ratings site Angie's List over fees

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Angie’s List, the website allowing members to post and access reviews of businesses they patronize, is accused of taking its own customers to the cleaners.

A lawsuit seeking class-action status in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Indiana alleges that Angie’s List automatically renews membership fees at a higher rate than customers are led to believe, calling the practice a “systematic and repeated breach of its membership agreement.”

The complaint was brought by Marie Fritzinger, a Philadelphia resident who said she’s been a paying member of Angie’s List since 2007. 

Fritzinger is represented by Irwin Levin, managing partner at Indianapolis law firm Cohen & Malad, who has earned a national reputation for class-action lawsuits.

Indianapolis-based Angie’s List has more than 1.2 million paid members in about 200 local markets.  In 2011, it collected membership fees of $33.8 million and total revenue of $90 million.

The complaint alleges that Angie’s List, while reserving the right to modify membership fees and billing methods, is not authorized by contract to charge members who are renewing their subscription more than the stated membership fee. Members provide a credit or debit card that Angie’s List keeps on file to allow for automatic renewal later.
 
“In breach of the plain language of its membership agreement, Angie’s List instead automatically renews its members pursuant to a distinct–and more costly–'membership renewal fee,'” according to the suit.

Fritzinger alleges the company does not disclose the renewal fee anywhere in its materials.

The complaint also alleges that longer-tenured members are hurt by a 2010 change in the Angie’s List business model in 30 of its most-mature city markets. That change gave members the option of limiting memberships to one of three categories–auto service providers, home contractors and health care providers–or purchase a bundled premium membership for all three categories.

The suit, filed in August, says Angie’s List renewed more-tenured members at the premium rate without notification.

Angie’s List has not yet filed a response to the lawsuit. It sought and received an extension from the court to respond by Nov. 2.

“We don’t comment on litigation,” said spokeswoman Cheryl Reed. “We’re vigorously defending against this suit.”

The suit alleges breach of contract, deception and unjust enrichment. It seeks an unspecified award of three-times the financial damages incurred under a count alleging deception for allegedly mis-applying credit and debit cards to collect the unauthorized bundled membership fees.

Angie’s List has not posted a profit since founded in 1995 and last year lost $49 million.

Company management and analysts nevertheless have said Angie's List is on track to be profitable by 2014 as it builds critical mass in national markets.

The company is pouring massive amounts of money into television advertising, fueled by $72 million in proceeds from an initial public stock offering last November.

Older markets, such as Indianapolis, tend to generate the most revenue for Angie’s List.  Generally the older the market, the higher the membership fee–roughly $63 a year in Indianapolis versus around $30 a year in a newer market like New York City.

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  • Angie's doesn't allow negative reviews
    When I posted a negative review of a solar panel contractor I have since learned has a notorious record, Angie wouldn't hear of it. Said that I had violated a term-of-service which I could not find. Angie is a part of the problem. The one institution I think you can usually rely on is the Better Business Bureau. You probably shouldn't do business with a home contractor for instance without checking your local BBB first. They won't charge you a cent, and if your contractor isn't listed, there's probably a good reason. You would think Angie would find this suspicious, but the word their guy told me on the phone is that it's irrelevant to their review. Our exchange was heated. I admit I was the one doing the yelling... mainly because by then I realized I had been ripped off by Angie's List as well as by the original party whom I complained about on Angie's List.
  • Ripped me off, too!
    They ripped me off for two years worth of fees that were double what the normal annual fee is. I never wanted to renew. I told them specifically that I didn't want to renew and to not automatically charge my credit card. So I caught this year's theft by Angie, but I didn't catch last year's and now I am out $108. On top of that, it's a terrible service. I found a terrible drainage contractor and a terrible landscaper through them, and I also found, but did not hire, a very creepy, unlicensed and unscrupulous building contractor on Angieslist. Who screens these contractors??? Now we use HomeAdvisor -- free and very good. I hope Home Advisor puts this scam outfit into bankruptcy. Then there is the junk mail: mountains ands mountains of junk mail that I have begged them to stop sending. Geeze, this company is awful.
  • My comment below
    My comment below is in response to 10+ year Member's comment.
  • busineses & people
    Busineses and everyday people don't think. They are paying out all this money and getting very little benifits if any. Angie is worth in excess 50 million dollars. There is one gal that is reaping max benifits. If as Robin Williams would say your all lambs.
  • Angie's List Used To Be
    I was a member of the list for several years beginnning in 2000. I for several years was very happy with the service. I used several vendors with good credentials on the list and had great result. However, a couple of years ago I noticed the price jump for membership and declined to renew. At first Angie's felt like a locally run neighborhood organization but in the last few years it has begun to feel more like a corporate giant.
  • Can't cancel
    One of the ways Angie's List scams people is by not accepting cancellations prior to renewal time, probably hoping members will forget to cancel or may not even be aware of the requirement to cancel before the renewal date. I called customer service and was told I'd get an email reminder a month before renewal time. They outrightly refused to mark the file to indicate I didn't want to renew so I'm thinking this is an integral part of their business plan. I used a specific debit card to start that account and as renewal time came, I depleted the balance to just a couple of dollars. Sure enough Angie's List tried charging the account but were unsuccessful. They tried three different days in a row.
  • I am shocked
    I can not believe people actually pay for this site. It is like paying for Classmates when you have FB for free. I really do not get it. From Yelp, to Google, to a variety of free review sites all over the internet, being a member of this Angies list seems not only lame, but very stupid as well.
  • ripoff
    Angie's List is a rip-off. I signed up, paid my money, only to find out that it is hard to navigate, and then I can only find out about certain services, and have to pay more $ if I want to know about a caterer and a dentist, for example. What a rip-off, I'm embarrassed that I fell for it.
  • Angie is a ripoff and liar
    She says you can't pay to get on her list. I was told by them that as a painting contractor that I wouldn't get any work if I didn't pay. She charged me $300 per month and did not get me one job. If I cancelled it would cost me $900. Contractors don't waste your money. Better to do sponsored links. They were hard to work with and unreasonable. Once they get your card you are screwed.Run! Don't use them.
  • False Advertising
    I'd like to see a class action lawsuit against them for false advertising. They claim that no contractor pays to be on AL. This is a blatant lie. My former employer is a general contractor. I told him AL was a scam. When his advertising contract came up for renewal, I urged him not to waste the money on AL. He ignored my advice and paid them $12,000 to be at the top of their listings for a year. The funny thing is that this contractor is unethical, violates all sorts of laws, and yet he's "endorsed" by Angie's List as the cream of the crop. Why anyone wouldn't simply go to Yelp is beyond me.
    • Just claim lost card
      Just call CC company and tell them you lost your card. They will issue you a new one with a new number.
    • Almost a complete scam
      I have been paying for this service for almost 6 months not and generated $0 income. Here is what they do not tell you: No matter how much you pay, your number of good reviews is what gets you customers. I have less reviews than my competitors so they said you will be above them if you pay us. While this is true, all business goes to the companies that has the largest number of good reviews. So what is the point of paying for advertising? If you have many good reviews customers will be calling you. If you do not, and you pay for advertising, customers will be skipping you and calling the companies with the most reviews. There is a 35% cancellation policy (any company that has this knows they have a bad product). When I called for help, they tried to sell me MORE advertising saying what I am paying for does not work for me so I need to pay for a "Store Front" advertising as well!! Crazy people! In short, it was a very costly mistake.:mad:
    • reply
      Yes newspapers don't run ads for free but most online sites do. They also don't charge you more than just the one time ad fee no fees to be the top ad or have special bold font...newspapers also dont build business by claiming to be free when they are not.
    • Wrong Issue
      The issue here is not cheap customers paying for access. It is a customer being told a fee is one thing then being billed a higher amount with no warning. A company guessing your new expiration date. A company who runs their whole business on the claim of companies not being able to pay their way up. Yet they do.
    • How many folks are having issues with Angies list referral services?
      Hello there folks, How many folks are having issues with Angies list referral services? On or about a year ago today a representative solicited a call to me for a three month trial to Angies list referral service. Although I thanked him for his time and informed him my sons do my advertising on line as they are both web designers, he still persisted saying what have you to lose, he said please give us an opportunity for three months to earn your trust, if you are not 100 percent satisfied simply cancel. He was pushy but courteous and polite, so I agreed. After the three months I inform an Angies list rep by phone I wished to cancel their services. They said that hated to see go and that the fella who contacted me was no longer with them however they would honor his commitment. It has been over a year with a minimum of 5 phone calls to Angie list representative along with at least 4 managers all of whom have assured me that my listing and billings would be canceled. Angies list continued to bill me through my Visa credit card. I have filed fraud with Bank of America 3 times and have finally had to resort to canceling a visa card to finally stop the fraud and harassment from Angies list referral service. I have now received a letter from collection agencies which states I owe Angies list $200 dollars for past services. I have been in Business for 30 years and have yet to stumble on or be conned and cheated and annoyed to this nature, which borders on criminal and fraud. How many other small business owner have suffered the same type of harassment case such as mine and are there any attorneys willing to open a class action suit against Angies list if so please contact me. It not the money I am concerned with it’s the fraud which goes far beyond the measurement in money in true and honest business practices. Kirk Giordano
    • Angies list doesn't care-adds con movers
      In 2009 I hired R & M Moving company and Angie Morris at keller williams realty which were both scams,Ms Morris did not advise me that this moving company was thieves and liars. R & M moving company owner Rose's husband had 5 prior felonies that I did not know, dealing in stolen property, burglary of a residence, grand theft of a firearm, marijuana charges and burglary. The moving company is now with an A rating.These companies took my belongings, laughed in my face when I was signing the check and takes advantage of people. Florida is not a good place to hire some moving compainies. R & M moving company lied to the police and could care less about the customer all about money, greed and disrespect. Do not hire them as angies list is also corrupt. Do the packing yourself. These type of companies should be in jail/Rikers prison
      • Angie's List is a Rip-Off
        I have never understood why anyone would pay to use Angie's list when you can get local reviews for free on sites like Kudzu and Yelp!
      • Rip off
        I was under the impression that once you signed up and paid you would have access to everything on their site. Wrong. I have to pay an extra $15 to see reviews of the medical professionals in my own city-when I tried to access them it says the health block of my city I couldn't access. I emailed them to cancel my subscription and I plan on calling them tomorrow to tell them what I think.
      • The case has merit
        A $49 million loss on revenues of $90 million for what is essentially a virtual internet-based business? Something does not add up there. I would add that, according to my own experience, Angie's list is guilty of questionable practices. It kept my credit card number on file without being authorized to do so, and I had to demand that they purge it when I found out about it. This is not acceptable.
      • Why pay for it?
        Why in the world would anyone pay to express their opinion about someone? Sounds crazy to me. No wonder Angie's List isn't profitable. I'm surprised they've made a cent. How often do you need to get a recommendation on a firm, anyway? Not often, I'll bet.
      • AL credit card update
        Holy Crap! Because of this story I went back and read every word of the Terms and Conditions on Angie's List. You're correct. We are in credit card prison thanks to Angie. Even if you don't change your expiration date with them they will change it for you, probably guessing until they get it right. Now there is credit card fraud!!
        • A Much Needed Service
          Angie's List has lead me to several excellent businesses I otherwise wouldn't have found. This is the first place I look when I need any kind of work done, services, even products. Too many times I've been screwed by plumbers and other service related companies. So far I have no problem with Angie's List. I hope they continue as such. Conversely, I wouldn't be shocked if they went greedy and I had to drop them. This is the way of business.
        • Free Advertising
          I think it's funny you complain about paying for advertising then calling it a scam. Do you work for free? Try asking the YP or newspapers to run an ad for you for free?
          • Wisernow
            Thanks to all of the above. You have confirmed my suspicion that Angie's list is a ripoff. I will continue to ask neighbors and tell them when I am pleased with a service.
          • Angie's List is not for me
            I have years of experience with Angie's List as a local plumber in Seattle. They have gotten money out of me and gave nothing in return except much trouble from customers that tend to be pretty passive aggressive. Angie's List get paid on both ends - Any contractor listing you see is only visible to you if the contractor is paying Angie's List through the nose. My cost for Angie's List "hot leads" was $300 each. Testing Angie's List cost me $7000 over two years. While paying such high costs for leads may work for a major construction project , it won't work for a service call where we charge by the 1/4 hour. Google clicks have gotten as high as $38 per click here in Seattle when the search term used is "plumber" or "plumbing". On the average it takes 15 clicks to get a call. Do the math on the cost to the guy ringing your doorbell. Angie's List cost per job performed was 75% of my company's average invoice total (about $400). My company does over a thousand jobs a year. Any homeowner service using this advertising method is paying way too much to maintain any integrity in the service. This type of advertising creating an incredible amount of pressure to convert to a commission-based high profit business model for basic traditional services. If I pay Angies List hundreds of dollars just to ring your doorbell how can I treat you fairly when your plumbing problem requires an hours work? I can't so I cancelled my advertising contract with Angies List. Angie's List uses a unique money making model that actually is a kind of pyramid scheme. They put all the local harvested contractors into their listings but you only will call highly rated ones. In order to be highly rated you must pay Angie Thousands of dollars a year for position in order to be seen AND time in grade is required to accumulate favorable reviews. Only a dozen or so can be in that position. The homeowner only calls the ones at the top so all new advertisers must invest thousands on continuing annual contracts to play the game on Angie's List. My solution was to put up a free local business directory with the policy of no shills, no fake listings, no paid advertising just so my neighbors and the local small businesses here in Seattle could find each other. (www.SeattleOnly.com) It may take a while for the new directory to get any real traffic as it is dependent upon local participation by local businesses and consumers. In my opinion, it is time for both local business and consumers to get control over how we find our services and customers as the marketers are hijacking the business to consumer relationship and forcing costs so high that nobody can bear the costs. Question: Why should we need out-of-state corporations to connect homeowners to services down the street? Surely there is a simple, inexpensive way for us to know our neighbors and small businesses. We all need to put a little thought and effort in that direction.
          • Proof is in the Pudding
            No profit since 1995 - END OF STORY! Wile E. Coyote will catch the roadrunner before this company is successful. Ever heard of Yelp, Google, or Yahoo? If Angie's List showed any signs of profitability, they would swoop in and offer the exact same service for FREE, thus sinking Angie back into oblivion. I'm not a fan of giant companies bullying everybody, but it is reality. This stock will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, be worth buying. EVER
          • First Page
            My company is regularly on the first page for our category search, almost consistently. While we get several, and I do mean SEVERAL, sales calls from AL to advertise with them, we have never paid them a dime. We instead use their FREE paper review sheets, hand them out to every client, and ask them to submit, whether they are pleased with our work or not. Yes folks, free, snail mail, actual pieces of paper, that you print, from a printer, can be mailed in by the consumer, and that consumer does not need to be member to do this. So that means, a company that pays $0 and a consumer that pays $0 to AL, can rank a contractor high enough to be on the first page almost daily. Get your facts straight people before falling victim to the AL hate hype. Now granted, we do not have a membership, (I am a GC and know the right contractors already), but the higher prices in the mature markets make sense. If a consumer is buying into a mature program with hundreds of thousands of ratings in their markets, they can and should pay more than a consumer buying into a new market with far less ratings, as the service is worth less in the new market.
            • Angie's List Nightmare
              I was charged a year or so ago through the Angie's List automatic renewal program--and the fee was just as others have described--much higher than my original membership fee. They had added onto the basic fee an additional charge for medical reviews that I had not requested. I called them to get it straightened out and it took months. I made at least five phone calls to their company to get it reversed. At one point, after refunding the original charge, instead of charging the actual price, they made up a number, based on the last four digits of my credit card number and charged me that amount! It was ludicrous. From the time they went public, their service went south. I told them I would write a bad review of their company through their own system if I could. I did threaten them with a bad review on Facebook and suddenly they were able to address the problem. I requested a free six-month membership for my pain and suffering and they gave it to me.
            • Look at this shiny object
              Interesting that another Angie's List employee would make another pitch for the company while skirting the issue. What was the title of the article?????
            • Read and ask questions people. Use your noggins before you go knockin.
              I've been a member for more than years. It has saved me thousands by finding the right contractors and avoiding the problems that I experienced prior to being a member. Time and again when I have funny feelings about a contractor, those feelings are validated when I see a terrible rating on Angie's List and read the detailed reviews submitted by other members. I then use the list to find the best and have NEVER had a problem selecting from the first page of search results online or using providers listed in the monthly magazine. A lot of the complaints listed in this message post could easily be resolved if consumers were smarter (as Angie's List attempts to enable you to be) and would read. You should always read any agreement before clicking through online or signing. In regard to Angie's List, you would see their auto-renewal policy as well as instructions for opting out of it by emailing your request or calling them. I prefer to talk to a live person, so I opted out of auto-renewal in a phone call years ago, and now I receive a letter each year in the mail that states my options and costs. I review my options and consistently decide that the small $60ish yearly fee is well worth it to avoid flying blind when hiring someone to do work in my home. With all the robberies, murder, home invasions, and other shady crime out there ever increasing, you have to be VERY careful about who has access to your property and belongings, and my home and safety are not something I’m willing to risk. Also, Angie’s List clearly posts policies on reporting as well as paid advertising. Any company who maintains a positive rating and a minimum number of recent reports can opt to advertise. This is paid marketing. From what is stated online and in Angie’s List’s own magazine, these providers must maintain a positive rating (A or B, as averaged by verified member reports), and if their rating falls – their ad is pulled. I’ve seen this happen. Angie’s List will also help you if you have a problem with a company and they post their excellent results for all to see. It is by far the most unbiased ratings service I’ve used, and the fact that a provider can see who is reporting on them brings more credibility because the reports can be verified. “CatLady85” can’t go in and file false negative or positive reviews anonymously, because a name and contact info can be verified by the company and by Angie’s List. I’ve even had providers call me after reading one of my reports to thank me for taking the time to submit feedback, and also to offer resolution to minor issues I’ve noted in my feedback. You have to remember the difference is you are paying for quality. FREE sites out there are funded by the companies on those lists, which is why they are free to you. Any company can be rated on Angie’s List without paying a dime, it is up to you as the consumer whether you use an Angie’s company that advertises over one who has a good rating but does not advertise. All are listed with detailed reviews from members who have used them. It sounds like some of you are confusing Angie with the BBB. I used to own a business and the BBB would always tell us how if we paid our $400+/yr we would NEVER be in bad standing with them. Not so with Angie. A friend of mine used to advertise with Angie, he was a roofer, but had a few bad crews over several consecutive seasons and negative reviews stacked up. This was during hail damage, when many local contractors were forced to take on subs to keep up with the work. He was paying Angie’s List more than $10,000/yr for his advertising and they pulled his ad because his rating fell and he was not able to resolve some of the issues. I believe he is since back in good standing and advertising again, but I will have to sign-on and check his current rating to be sure. He never said an ill word of Angie’s List, only that he would be more careful of who he hired for his crews to get his rating back up and keep it there. From my personal experience, their call center is staffed by some of the most friendly Indianapolis residents with strong focus on customer service. If you ever have questions or trouble finding what you need online, they will give you names and contact info of companies for your need right over the phone. You can even share feedback with them by phone and they’ll do the typing for you! Sure, things have changed a bit over the years, as with any company as they grow. However, they haven’t skimped on customer service in their call center and are always looking to improve. They’ve made many improvements to their site and magazine over the years, many as a direct results of member suggestions. Take your chances with hiring strangers if you like… Or, choose to be an informed consumer. I prefer the latter. I’m happy to keep paying the small membership fee to find excellent tradesman and avoid the headaches that I read about in the experiences of others. Fortunately, the headaches and financial losses I’ve experienced due to poor tradesman are now a distant memory. I promise you, once you’ve had a bad experience and feel ripped off in the slightest, you’ll understand the value in spending $60/yr to avoid those types of feelings and troubles. Best to you all.
              • Hello Mr Morrison
                J. C. Morrison. That doesn't ring a bell. I've been in the local business area for a while. I've not heard of you in the area. Do you need a few reports? I can help you. Interesting that you are so pro (with some hinted "balance") Angie's List. You are even gathering helpful information for them. Mr Moooooooooorison ...
              • Typical Indiana co.
                Chalk up another white collar fraud under the watch of Mitch Daniels. You voted for him, deal with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! has he returned the Durham donation yet???? NO!
              • Objective?
                I once gave a contractor a B rating and shortly thereafter the contractor called me to complain about my rating. I was appalled that Angies List provided my contract information to contractor.
              • Alternatives
                Try Buzzjoy.net. Local owners with great ideas, growing like crazy from honest feedback, no fees to be at the top you have to earn it.
              • whitewashing
                Oh, they absolutely do whitewash bad reviews. Twice I had critical reviews of companies with "A" ratings that seemed to be their "favorites." Both times, my reviews were never posted. This includes once where, at the same time, I posted critical reviews of the company and the subcontractor - only the one for the subcontractor ever showed up! That, combined with their unscrupulous auto-renew policies, made me say "Angie's List: F."
              • Sympathetic
                We are long time members dating back to the original Unified Neighbors days. We've noticed over the Angie's List years a culture change toward being more mercenary and profit motivated, less service oriented. Reminds us of our experience with satellite radio for our car where it is very difficult to cancel once they have your credit card number.
              • Fair Warning
                I warned people, over and over, that Angie's List was a scam. Angie looks into the camera and swears "No one can pay to be on Angie's List" and that is totally misleading. I was told by an Angie's List Employee that I would need to "pay more" if I wanted my company listing to appear on the first page of inquiry when someone is seeking a recommendation for a contractor. The whole sales pitch had the same odor as a ripe out-house on a hot July Evening. This is one court case I would love to attend, but I am guessing it will be settled out of court, so the facts can be buried from public view. If you own stock in this company, you were directed down a pathway that separates a fool from his or her money. Subscribers got hosed, contractors who were dumb enough to pay for their name to appear on the first page of recommended contractors truly deserved to get hosed, stockholders got hosed, and now the general public will hear the rest of the proverbial story. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is too good to be true.
              • Irony
                I appreciate the irony of the banner ad letting everyone know Angie Hicks is speaking at the Women of Influence recognition breakfast.
              • Local Contractor
                I understand the concerns regarding the membership fees, which to me seem exorbitant. That being said, there is a lot of competition for the contractors, and I doubt if anyone has been able to "jack-up prices" because of their reviews on Angie's List. My clients have reviewed my work and have provided truthful reviews and some helpful criticisms. I hope that you will be objective in your critiques of the vendors being reviewed. I have never heard of Angie's List white washing any critical review. I am not saying it can't happen, as their are unscrupulous people working in every industry, I just am not aware of this as a normal practice at this company. Also remember that as a vendor, we are outsiders looking in, and are kept at an arms length when it comes to client reviews and our responses to them. We are held suspect until we can prove we did the job correctly, on time and on budget. Members have what seems to be an automatic innocence, while the accused an automatic guilt until proven otherwise. That is as it should be. I wonder if there are any suggestions for how such a service could be improved?
                • Angie List Mystery?
                  The implication that AList endorsements or critiques are not trust-worthy suddenly brings a question to my mind on an incident that happened to me within last 2 years--as follows: I had massive slate roof,copper gutter damages in hail-storm and my insurance company (in the past trustworthy)did not want to pay the very high ($180,000 plus estimates I got from local,trust-worthy slate-copper expert companies--and kept pressuring me to use a company they recommended--local,name begins with a C but I am omitting. Finally, I gave in and accepted adjuster's recommendations BUT STUPIDLY WITHOUT CHECKING THE ROOFER WITH BBB OR ANGIE--!!! Within the first weeks I was so shocked at C------Roofing's lies, shoddy untrained illegal workers that I STOPPED THE WORK, demanded and got expert proof the firm was a}on the very lowest D list or whatever with Angie's because of multiple complaints of illegal or dishonest sub-contracting, misrepresentations of slate quality, on and on.Then I checked and found 37 law suits or complaints on file--demanded and got intervention via my insurance company --but by then I was trapped into letting the shoddy roofer finish but only under protest because by this point no reputable roofing co. would assume the liability. I now have a shoddy $110,000 slate,gutter nightmare because even with 2 yr. warranty I WOULD NEVER HAVE C------ROOFERS BACK ON MY PROPERTY. But until this story, I never questioned why when I first called Angie List to check they shared the negative rating and even documented law suits filed on problems identical to my own--WHICH FORTUNATELY I GOT IN WRITING! Yet when I called again short time later A.List responded it had "no information" on this very same company and would NOT confirm what it had provided both verbally and in writing on this firm's misdeeds and miserable record and complaints!! I was puzzled then--but now wonder even more why a firm was black listeed with validated complaints --and only weeks later white-washed perhaps. Any one out there able to explain or ?
                  • We deserve better
                    This practice started under Scott Brenton the former COO. Its illegal and I was suprised the "company" would do it for short term dollars at that type of risk. Now how about those tax dollars that were spent on what Bill had no problem saying - "additional revenue for advertising" on a stage with the Gov Daniels and the mayor. We spent $24 million of our much needed revenue on a ponzi scheme that is sure to fail. Gov Daniels is hiding out at Purdue. Where is Bill going to go?
                  • Funny..
                    ...that Angie Hicks shows up in the ad on the left margin as the featured speaker for the upcoming Women of Influence breakfast.
                  • HISTORY question?
                    I am stunned at not just IBJ story but of the additional damaging (but totally credible) email commenhts which in themselves provide grist for an IBJ followup--so here is some history which may be foggy but: Long ago a man named Bill Corbin started a homespun service UNIFIED NEIGHBORS, which is exactly the service which Angie's List purports to offer (if my memory is correct.) It not only grew under Corbin but actually won some media awards for its objective and well-documented consumer protection-service but I don't recall the exact years. Then when Angie's List emerged (again year uncertain) I assumed it was based on or somehow linked to Unified Neighbors, hence I subscribed annually for what was a modest subscription fee (don;t remember) and kept paying yearly noting but not really thinking about the fee growth. I was shocked recently when my subscription had to be changed to a new address at the $70 I think fee--but even more shocked at the facts these user comments reflect. Can IBJ followup and clarify? Or does any reader know the genesis of Angie re Unified Neighbors? Perhaps a story in itself?
                  • Angie's List is a SCAM
                    If you think paying $30-$60 for membership fees is bad, try paying the $30,000.00 they want companies to pay to be on their list & to advertise with them! Angie’s List is a SCAM, you have to PAY to be on their list plus you have to PAY to advertise & you have to PAY to be a member…..It’s just a money making SCAM!!!
                    • Bad reviews
                      From the comments below and the calss action lawsuit, I wonder if analysts will change their expectations. This sounds like a recipe for disaster. It may be that to meet analyst's predictions, the company had to change its business model, part of which includes increasing fees without proper disclosure and offering customers the opportunity to opt out.
                    • also heard...
                      I've also heard that if a vendor pays $400 he will appear in the beginning of a member's search. I haven't been very impressed with Angies List and I've been a member for two years. Just because they have good reviews, vendors think they can jack up their prices. If they get bad ones, they can reopen under a different name.
                    • Membership is too expensive
                      I am a longtime Indiana subscriber. I just checked my bank account on line and discovered I had been charged $88.50 for a renewal membership which is exhorbitant. I will be cancelling my membership.
                    • Are you familiar with Quickbooks subscription?
                      This sounds like busineess models from operations like Intuit. Not commenting on the legal status or method .. the fine print is critical, but not widely read or understandable by the "users" repair-persons etc .. who make use of the service ..this is a hard one ..
                    • Tip of the Iceberg
                      I have been a member of Angie's List since their first enrollment and was pleased for the first several years to be able to have 'insider' screening of vendors and felt the candid information was worth more than the membership fee. In recent years, Angie's began disclosing the identity of reviewers (without notification or permission) when requested by the vendor, so that leaving negative comments leaves us vulnerable to hostility and/or retaliation by said vendors. Their main revenues seem to be derived from the vendor ads and coupons - and the List now sorts by the coupon offers unless the member changes it to another type of sort. Also worrisome is the denied ability to delete credit card information from ones account in the on-line "My Account" option. You may change the card information, but cannot delete and/or eliminate the auto-renew. I have supported this local business for its entire existence, but can no longer justify doing so.

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