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The Republican president of the City-County Council in Indianapolis says his party plans to introduce an expanded smoking ban that would take effect before the Super Bowl.

Council President Ryan Vaughn told Fox59-TV that the proposal being introduced early next month would add bars, bowling alleys and hotel rooms to Marion County's existing smoking ban. It would exempt cigar and hookah bars, retail tobacco stores and not-for-profit fraternal groups.

Vaughn says the proposal, if passed by Dec. 19, would have time to be properly advertised before taking effect before Super Bowl activities begin in Indianapolis in late January. He proposed a similar bill two years ago.

Vaughn said Republican Mayor Greg Ballard supports the proposal.

Democrats assumed control of the council Jan. 1 by a 16-13 margin. They've been planning their own expansion of the smoking ban.

Democrat council member Angela Mansfield told Fox59 she is planning to propose a ban that includes just one exemption.

"It will exempt only retail tobacco shops that sell 85 percent or more tobacco products," Mansfield told Fox59.

Vaughn's proposal will go before the council Dec. 5 and be eligible for final passage Dec. 19. If passed, the new ordinance could take effect Jan. 22, two weeks before the Super Bowl.

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  • Why Vet clubs?
    Ballard already weaseled once - during his first campaign, he said he was anti-smoking. Once in office, some of his vet buddies much have have twisted his arm.

    What's sad is when people start playing slippery slope; e.g., it's not just about smoking & health, what about weight/diet/exercise/whatever?

    The discussion is smoking, not other health issues.

    That slope is nothing but a deflection of the topic at hand.

    As far as businesses losing business, the only time there will be a loss is easy access to locations which tolerate smoking. If Indiana were to abolish smoking, it would be those who wish to drive to a place over the state border which would divert $$$.

    Early on, some people might stay away to try & prove a point, but are they going to stop socializing altogether? I think not. If bars were to go out of business before the economy rights itself, I'm sure there are plenty of people who will claim it's because of the smoking ban. There are plenty of bars which will go out of business without the smoking ban.

    Besides, they're estimating smoking will be outlawed in all fifty states by 2020. Isn't 400 years long enough?


    I love sophistry.


  • Also
    Another funny thing about this coming from Republicans...Since they're pointing to the Super Bowl and the teeming out-of-state hoards we're expecting as an impetus for this decision, it's a pretty clear acknowledgement that we're completely out of step with the rest of the country. And that is very good news. Maybe we're finally ready to get out of our own way.
  • What took the spineless wonders so long?
    What took so long? How much bar owners association $ has been sprinkled on the councilmen? Whay can't the state simply do their job and make this point moot? Ahhh, yes the tobbacco loby and their endless supply of $$$$ - what was I thinking?

    How about Mitch fussing over business taxes and inventory taxes etc trying to make the state of IN "lean and mean" for new growth. . .??? Well as a small business owner I can assure you taxes are the LEAST of my worries, health insurance premiums will make or break a business and if I'm going to a state it better have a COMPREHENSIVE work place smoking ban- period, because smokers cost me more on my skyrocketing health costs - period.
  • Taking credit for what we have spent years fighting for.
    Kim Teale, you interestingly address "all democrats that smoke." But are there any? It should be clear to everyone now that smoking cigarettes is almost entirely the dominion of the right side of the political spectrum. Take a look at a US military base, whose populations are about as conservative as they come, and an estimated 50% of soldiers smoke, even in this day and age. Aside from the "end to our freedoms" stuff, Republicans don't want to ban smoking because cigarette smokers (generally whites with no more than a high school education) represent a huge portion of their voting bloc.

    Liberals and Democrats prefer smoking weed.
  • Hilarious
    Only Nixon could go to China and, in Indiana, only a Republican can take away your "freedom." So gosh darn funny.
  • Need a State-Wide Ban
    Remember that the City Council spending time on this is only due to the negligence of our state government on this matter - with Mitch at the top. Most progressive states have had a ban for years with no drop in business. Look the success of Brothers in Broad Ripple and T.D. Alibis on Shadeland - they are booming with no smoking policies.
  • Smoking Ban
    Mike you are so right.
    First of all I am a non-smoker and I believe in the "freedom of rights" for all Americans.
    Why can't anyone see the writing on the wall. This is not going to STOP with the smoking issue. These groups or individuals that are pushing a "smoking issue" proclaim that cigarette smoke is going to kill you and the unknown money behind this issue has done a successful job of scaring the public. Now this same money has added trans fat, wine, fast food chains,dark chocolate, coffee and now salt to their cause to create FEAR. It is not going to stop until they control our lives and freedom as American citizens.

    This is what does not make sense. Lets see, they will exempt cigar bars, hookah bars,
    (these are smoking enviroment as well)then why not exempt cigarette bars and private clubs. To me, this is discrimination. Vaughn and Ballard, why would you knock down a business owner and put them out of business with the economy as it is today. Mr. Mayor and Mr. Vaughn, how insane to have businesses close their doors and lets show the thousands of visitors that come into Indy the boarded up businesses for the Super Bowl

    Ballard and Vaughn - I am dissapointed to hear that you are going along with this proposal. I am so sorry I volunteered my time and voice to get you both elected into office.

  • Kim and Mike
    You "two" are a hoot. Sore losers about losing the mayor's seat and sore winners about regaining the city council. Y'all (or you - singular) are just losers, in general.
  • smoking ban
    Smoking ban, remember these names Vaughn and Ballard.

    All democrats that smoke or don't smoke, they are trying to take credit for what we have spent years fighting for. Enough is enough, we have control of the council now.
  • smoking ban
    smoking ban,remember these names Vaughn and Ballard. All republicans that smoke, they are trying tontake more, of your rights away from you. enough is enough

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