IBJNews

Kilroy’s Broad Ripple plan clears another hurdle

Back to TopCommentsE-mailPrintBookmark and Share

Kilroy’s Bar n’ Grill is a step closer to opening a location in Broad Ripple despite protests from a neighborhood group opposing the restaurant.

It received preliminary approval on Monday from the Local Alcoholic Beverage Board of Marion County, which recommended a liquor permit for the building at 821 Broad Ripple Ave. The site now is home to a Cardinal Fitness.

A final decision on Kilroy’s alcohol permit will be made by the Indiana Alcohol & Tobacco Commission at a yet-to-be determined date.

The proposal to open a Kilroy’s in Broad Ripple has drawn opposition from the Broad Ripple Village Association and some neighbors, wary of another large bar and concerned the outdoor dining area would remove too many scarce parking spaces.

A Kilroy’s variance earned the endorsement of Indianapolis’ planning staff this summer after the owner agreed to scale back an outdoor searing area from 4,800 square feet to 2,000 square feet, allowing for the preservation of more parking spaces.

The Kilroy’s in Broad Ripple would be owned by Paul Murzyn, who also owns another Kilroy's in downtown Indianapolis. The original Kilroy’s is in Bloomington.
 

ADVERTISEMENT

  • Cardinal Fitness
    Has anyone heard if Cardinal will stay in the area? If so, any speculation on location?
  • Try parking in a big city...
    Parking in Broad Ripple is very easy almost all the time. The only time you ever have to walk much more than three or four blocks is for a small window of time late on Friday and Saturday night. There is maybe a three or four hour span each weekend night that I would even call remotely tough but even then you can ALWAYS get a space if you are willing to walk seven or eight blocks. Try parking in many areas of Chicago, New York, SF, etc. and then you will really know what not having enough parking is like.
  • Totally agree
    BVRA needs some fresh & young blood.
  • Parking
    Broad Ripple will lose almost 400 parking spaces when the parking garage is built because there will be no more street parking for non residents. People who say there is plenty of parking don't live in Broad Ripple. The problem with parking a few blocks away is that the side streets are poorly lit and there are no lights on the monon so that is when the problems start. So saying there is going to be a parking garage is not a vaild argument either. The arguments should be the fact there are unoccuiped buildings in broad ripple why take one that would not leave unless bought out.Also, why doesn't Kilroy's wait to go under the new parking garage and expand Broad ripple? Finally, there is going to be a logistical nightmare with all that traffic at that conner.
  • parking
    Cardinal fitness whas not private parking all the time. Friday and Saturday nights you can pay to park there. However, the BRVA issue with the parking is really a non issue. There is plenty of parking and there will be a new 400 space garage built. Poor argument, just come out and say you don't want a bar. BRVA need some "younger" board members that "get" broad ripple.
    • Parking
      BRVA loses all credibility that they have when they make their absurd parking argument. Like the other posters have mentioned, the Cardinal lot was private parking. In addition, I have NEVER had any problems parking in Broad Ripple. Granted, I may have had to walk a few blocks. But for most people in this city, they could use walking a few blocks.
    • Parking
      The parking argument is not valid to begin with. Parking for Cardinal Fitness was private and wasn't accessible for the general public in the first place. If you were heading to Broad Ripple for dinner / night out, you never had the option to park there in the first place. The argument of losing parking is simply not valid.
    • Misguided
      I understand the bar complaint.....possibly valid. Fortunately, Killroy's has some ok food. The issue I have is with the parking complaint. This outdoor plaza would have been somewhat unique and fitting with the long term goals of BR Ave. Why do we continue to reduce quality of life for a few parking spots........you want walkability and transit modes, cut parking requirements. It's that easy!

    Post a comment to this story

    COMMENTS POLICY
    We reserve the right to remove any post that we feel is obscene, profane, vulgar, racist, sexually explicit, abusive, or hateful.
     
    You are legally responsible for what you post and your anonymity is not guaranteed.
     
    Posts that insult, defame, threaten, harass or abuse other readers or people mentioned in IBJ editorial content are also subject to removal. Please respect the privacy of individuals and refrain from posting personal information.
     
    No solicitations, spamming or advertisements are allowed. Readers may post links to other informational websites that are relevant to the topic at hand, but please do not link to objectionable material.
     
    We may remove messages that are unrelated to the topic, encourage illegal activity, use all capital letters or are unreadable.
     

    Messages that are flagged by readers as objectionable will be reviewed and may or may not be removed. Please do not flag a post simply because you disagree with it.

    Sponsored by
    ADVERTISEMENT

    facebook - twitter on Facebook & Twitter

    Follow on TwitterFollow IBJ on Facebook:
    Follow on TwitterFollow IBJ's Tweets on these topics:
     
    Subscribe to IBJ
    1. By Mr. Lee's own admission, he basically ran pro-bono ads on the billboard. Paying advertisers didn't want ads on a controversial, ugly billboard that turned off customers. At least one of Mr. Lee's free advertisers dropped out early because they found that Mr. Lee's advertising was having negative impact. So Mr. Lee is disingenous to say the city now owes him for lost revenue. Mr. Lee quickly realized his monstrosity had a dim future and is trying to get the city to bail him out. And that's why the billboard came down so quickly.

    2. Merchants Square is back. The small strip center to the south of 116th is 100% leased, McAlister’s is doing well in the outlot building. The former O’Charleys is leased but is going through permitting with the State and the town of Carmel. Mac Grill is closing all of their Indy locations (not just Merchants) and this will allow for a new restaurant concept to backfill both of their locations. As for the north side of 116th a new dinner movie theater and brewery is under construction to fill most of the vacancy left by Hobby Lobby and Old Navy.

    3. Yes it does have an ethics commission which enforce the law which prohibits 12 specific items. google it

    4. Thanks for reading and replying. If you want to see the differentiation for research, speaking and consulting, check out the spreadsheet I linked to at the bottom of the post; it is broken out exactly that way. I can only include so much detail in a blog post before it becomes something other than a blog post.

    5. 1. There is no allegation of corruption, Marty, to imply otherwise if false. 2. Is the "State Rule" a law? I suspect not. 3. Is Mr. Woodruff obligated via an employment agreement (contractual obligation) to not work with the engineering firm? 4. In many states a right to earn a living will trump non-competes and other contractual obligations, does Mr. Woodruff's personal right to earn a living trump any contractual obligations that might or might not be out there. 5. Lawyers in state government routinely go work for law firms they were formally working with in their regulatory actions. You can see a steady stream to firms like B&D from state government. It would be interesting for IBJ to do a review of current lawyers and find out how their past decisions affected the law firms clients. Since there is a buffer between regulated company and the regulator working for a law firm technically is not in violation of ethics but you have to wonder if decisions were made in favor of certain firms and quid pro quo jobs resulted. Start with the DOI in this review. Very interesting.

    ADVERTISEMENT