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Kilroy’s gets liquor approval for Broad Ripple location

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Kilroy’s Bar n’ Grill has been granted approval to begin selling alcohol in Broad Ripple, giving it the go-ahead to open a restaurant there despite protests from a neighborhood group.

The Indiana Alcohol and Tobacco Commission voted 3-0 on Tuesday to give Kilroy’s a liquor permit for the location at 821 Broad Ripple Ave. The site now is home to a Cardinal Fitness center.

It received preliminary approval on Oct. 3 from the Local Alcoholic Beverage Board of Marion County

The proposal to open a Kilroy’s in Broad Ripple had drawn opposition from the Broad Ripple Village Association and some neighbors, wary of another large bar and concerned the outdoor dining area would remove too many scarce parking spaces.

Kilroy’s in Broad Ripple would be owned by Paul Murzyn, who owns another Kilroy's in downtown Indianapolis. The original Kilroy’s is in Bloomington.
 

 

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  • It's a good thing.
    There is something to be said for looking out for the direction and culture of Broad Ripple and there should be some direction. I never would want to see a strip club or a burger king get slapped into that location.

    That said. Kilroy's is at minimum an Indiana started business tnat will present a better look on Broad Ripple Avenue than the run down fitness center look. This isn't the end of Broad Ripple, it has had a reputation as a bar/club scene on weekend nights for YEARS. This is nothing new and this isn't going to change the makeup. If anything, its going to spread out the density in the bars a little bit and actually make going out in the evenings a little more tolerable. At least they pass for a restaurant most of the day and dont shut down like a Landsharks for Rock Lobster outside of nighttime.

    People can lament small businesses going out of business, but that happens. If the business was that well run or that desirable it would still be there. The market is going to decide these things, not flying a flag in the name of saving some kind of way of life or culture.
  • Amen.
    ^ THIS!!!
  • Retail in BR
    I agree that Broad Ripple Avenue is all bars, why is that a problem? In the last few years Broad Ripple has seen 8 Fifteen & Addendum both open beautiful new high end stores s well as Marigolds & Big Hat move into larger nicer locations - ALL off of Broad Ripple Avenue. Businesses that have closed (Frankeys - a money loser and poorly run for years before they opened in BR, French Pharmacy - merely an expensive mistake to bolster Stacy Kosene's ego. I thought the village slogan was "We are open if you are". What is wrong with breakfast places (3 Sisters & Petite Chou, giving way to daytime shopping, and then restaurants in the early evening and bars later in the evening until 3 am!!!????
  • fact
    JoeP
    I can name at least six businesses that have either closed,moved or changed hands in the last 12 months. Many more than you realize are wanting to get out.
    If this is becoming Castleton Square then so be it. The quaintness leaving is the point I guess I was trying to make.
    • Sharon...
      How soon will you be soliciting Kilroy's owners to write you a check to become a BVRA member???!!!! Broad Ripple Avenue is not viable for retail, Bars work there! And whatever Kilroy's plans to do will be a big improvement over an abandoned fitness club.
    • BRVA
      The BRVA is attempting to bring diverse businesses to the village. Let's face it, there are enough late night establishments to serve BR already. Do we really need another sports bar? Look next door: OPT. Look across the street: Chumley's.

      What's really interesting is that Kilroy's will be operating as a family establishment, although they want to prevent anyone under 21 from entering after 9pm and stay open until the wee hours. Does that sound like a family establishment? Evidently it does, according to the city of Indianapolis...

      What's sad to me is that, whether or not you agree with what the BRVA is doing, the city of Indianapolis seems to overlook the organization on this topic. All Indianapolis sees is more potential tax revenue. To hell with whether or not that additional revenue comes at a price to the local residents. Why does the BRVA exist as an advocate for the village when city officials continue to overlook its efforts to solicit info from its residents and convey them uniformly?

      Technically, the BRVA does represent you, BR Resident. They've held numberous meetings (EnVision Broad Ripple) to see what residents like you want to see in future developments for the village. Those who took the time and effort to attend said they want to see more improvement on structures (ie. Retroware) and less "late night" development. The BRVA is representing the input it received by lobbying for smart development that will bring people into Broad Ripple all day long, not just after 9pm.

      BR Resident: If the BRVA isn't what you'd like it to be, why aren't you trying to make it what you WOULD like it to be? Anyone can make spiteful comments on the internet. Don't knock those folks who take the time and make the effort to volunteer if you're not willing to do so...
      • facts vs fiction
        Gail-
        BR businesses (small restaurants, boutiques, etc) are doing just fine. There is no trend that points to a decline from prior years. It's true that some businesses have closed (normal business cycle), but many more have opened.
      • BRVA
        The BRVA does NOT represent the majority of Broad Ripple residents. Thank God they have no real authority.
        • Good for Kilroy's
          While I understand BRVA's concern, this is a capitalist market. If a business wishes to attempt at creating a new restaurant, the consumers will decide the need for it and ultimately it's success or decline. This is not for BRVA to decide. Also, people seem to forget, Kilroy's is a "local" business, homegrown in Bloomington.

          As for the regulatory agency allowing or denying a liquor license, it would be impossible for them to deny a liquor license in this area in particular without facing any discrimination lawsuits. This is an established entertainment district with hundreds of liquor licenses. It's not like this is a new bar that popped up next to an elementary school or daycare. The regulatory authority must take into account surrounding area and precedents. In this case, the area and precedents supports the approval.
        • well
          The perception of BR has and is steadily eroding into a weekend drinking destination for the younger crowd. Bar/Grills competing with each other for the cheapest food and booze. Weekday/early evening home-grown boutiques and restaurants see virtually no business and are closing. The people who can support these businesses are shopping/dining on the North side of town now. Think about what is happening to that neighborhood. So sad to see this happen<
        • What is the Role of an Administrative Agency?
          In light of what we've been reading lately about the Indiana Utility Rate Commission and its relationship with Duke Energy, this decision raises a question about what the proper role of our State administrative agencies really is. Do they exist to protect the public? Or is their role to protect the industry they regulate?
          Here, the question would be do the Alcohol and Tobacco folk take the needs of the local community into account or simply determine whether an applicant is qualified for yet another liquor license.
          It would be helpful if IBJ could explain the criteria the legislature established for Alcohol and Beverage to make its decisions.
        • Boo on Kilroys
          The people of Broad Ripple MUST be heard!! Save the Village! Save the Village!

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