TV ratings droop near all-time low for Indy 500

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ABC-TV's telecast of the Indianapolis 500 on Sunday earned a 3.7 rating nationwide, one of the race's worst ratings performances in recent history.

The race, culminating in the first Indy 500 win by fan favorite Tony Kanaan, averaged about 5.7 million viewers during its televised run, according to Nielsen ratings provided by ESPN Communications. ESPN produces the telecast in conjunction with sister network ABC.

The ratings were the lowest since 2010, when the race earned a 3.6 rating, its worst performance since live telecasts started in 1986. The telecast improved to a 4.0 in 2011, and 4.3 in 2012, representing a four-year high of nearly 6.9 million viewers.

The ratings include viewership for the evening tape-delayed broadcast of the race in the Indianapolis area, according to Andy Hall, associate director of ESPN Communications.

This year's ratings surely are a disappointment to both ABC/ESPN and the IndyCar series. Broadcast executives were confident about building on the bump from 2012. Rich Feinberg, ESPN's vice president in charge of motorsports production, told reporters last week that several compelling storylines would "give us a great opportunity to put on a terrific show for our viewers."

Attention grabbers included two three-time winners in Helio Castroneves and Dario Franchitti, several dynamic rookies, four women drivers, and Indianapolis native Ed Carpenter in the pole position. "Those are all pieces we can drive," Feinberg said, "but at the end of the day, viewers decide."



  • The Dipsicle is on record
    stating it ok with him if the speedway dies, as long as it is the Hulman family that kills it
  • Heck no
    0.35, 0.18, 0.20, 0.7, 0.8, and a 3.7. As long as the sun rises in the east and I'm alive to see it, you can bet I will be around to comment on the failure of IMS and the Indycar series. Oh, and the failure the IRL too.
  • It's Alive
    Except it's not. Nor will it be. Accept it, grow up and enjoy, or put your money where your typing fingers are and move on. But you won't.
  • It doesn't have to die
    But, short thinkers like yourself are so selfish you'll take A race at Indy no matter what runs there...ugly cars or not. That's sad. The speedway could linger forever on public $$$ handouts. I guess just having it in this zombie mode is just as good as it being dead.
  • LOL
    Ooooohhh. Sounds dire. When will it finally go out of business? LOL. Keep watching religiously.
  • Wrong again
    My area radio stations quit carrying Indy 500 broadcasts. SiriusXM did not carry qualys and bump/carb day, only when NBCSN was off the air. 3.7 IS the lowest Indy TV rating since TV's were invented. Local newspapers barely mentioned the 500. Detroit doubleheader nets 0.7 and 0.8 respectively...quite possibly the LOWEST OTA ABC AOW broadcast EVER. Yeah man, no wonder IMS needs to rape the taxpayers for $100Million. Oh, and raise ticket prices. Have some more Hartmoor Polo dude...
  • The Definition of Obtuse
    You'd better either have your radio or your head examined. XM 211 carries all IndyCar activity. The most recent IndyCar race got a 3.7, which is great for its time slot. It was on ABC. Not NBCSN. You may have also noticed we're getting close to the Stanley Cup portion of the hockey playoffs. Continue to laugh at your whacko apples to cement comparisons.
  • Ch 211...pfffft
    Baloney...Nothing was on...a VOX voice reading the schedule. You're full of it Dipsicle. Oh, and great news too...NHL scored a 2.07 TV rating for Hawks/Wings hockey on Wednesday night. As a colleague noted...Indycar gets 0.18 rating for their races. He guesses that folks will watch NBCSN if there's something to watch. Indycar isn't something to watch.
    • Time To Enhance Your Subscription
      Hmmmm....oddly all the IndyCar activity is on channel 211. Of course you need the XM to go along with Sirius. I listened the whole time.
    • And they blacked out SiriusXM too
      I tried listening to the 500 futility...I was rebuffed at every try on SiriusXM..Quals and race. In the northeast...not a radio broadcast was to be found either. I must say, I believe IMS signed away these broadcast rights when they signed the Versus/NBCSN deal. It's IMS' desperate money grab then that is cinching the noose now. I don't care, I love it!!!
      • You want points?!!
        As of August, 2012, there are an estimated 114.2 million television households in the United States, a drop of nearly 500,000 from the previous year. A single national ratings point represents one percent of the total number, or 1,142,000 households for the 2012–13 season. It is clearly foul and unforgivable play to block live broadcasting of Indy 500 qualifications and the race ,here in Indiana, home of their biggest fan base. And really, do they think broadcasting will eat into ticket sales by fans who need the fix of the live action onsite? I don't think so. So wake up IMS. Indianapolis alone has nearly 10% of the national tv households. You're a flip of a switch away for an additional 250K viewers or so. But you better do your homework. Worldwide viewers are pitching their tv's for online streaming anytime anywhere. Don't chase a dying market.
      • The Dipsicle is SO funny
        Hooking up trailer parks to cable network doesn't exactly make you an industry insider
      • $800M - $100M = $700M
        Yes, a wonderfully run business IF you like it running in the red. When the IRL was started (for what reason then we do not know now), TV ratings were in the 9.0 range and highest attendances for an ENTIRE month were seen. So, 17 years later it's estimated $800M million has been spent for 0.18 TV ratings, the lowest Indy 500 TV ratings in it's history and lowest attendance since the 50's for the 500. Yep, that's a smooth running operation right there...IMS and Indycar that is.
      • Exactly
        Exactly. No other large facility in Indianapolis [Dome/Fieldhouse] has functioned this long without assistance major financial assistance. PLUS, I am thankful they have kept the name Indianapolis Motor Speeday [they could have easily called it the Hullman-George Motor Speedway at any given time] or sold out to another company for naming rights. Helping the IMS is long overdue. They are a wonderfully run company. I understand the IMS's concern in loss of revenue by not airing it live locally. However, I wish they would consider PPV. Granted, joe's from around Indianapolis could pay the measily $50 and then have a large party of people to watch on their big screen. So, understandbly, IMS would really need to charge a high price for PPV for this reason. I hope IMS decides to air it live for their 100 yr anniversary.
      • Yawn
        Been to F1 race and all I have to say is B-O-R-I-N-G. Must've been why you were in the cafe distracted by the prime rib- it was so much more dynamic than the racing.
      • The reason...
        Here's the reason for low ratings and empty seats: B-O-R-I-N-G. Next topic...
      • LOL
        It certainly holds your rapt attention.
      • Heads Up!
        At least the "tin foil" hat crowd had their heads up for the observation of Dario easing one into the Safer for boi-love Tony, thusly repaying the favor Tony gifted his boi-hero Dario in the 2005 Fontana race, with his fake "missed shift". That whole CART clan has way too much boi-love. To the point Dario immediatley wrecked when his spotter told him it was TK in the lead. YOu knwo it happend. Dario should be the one giving the fans their money back. I applaud the tin-foils for not buying the Indycar kool-aid. Dario just as sure wrecked his sled for boi-god TK as Pippa Mann sounded off on daady's girl Graham for getting int he way of her erratic play-racing. Oh, the humanity of this insipd league.
      • Tin Foil Hats
        One of the more cockamie theories advanced by the obsessed children of the cart is the notion Franchitti crashed on purpose to ensure a Kanaan win. That alone proves the depraved ignorance of the squatters.
      • Pippa Mann and Ana Beatriz
        Just for example, right? Could it be they failed to replace Gary Bettenhausen and Rich Vogler as the "new Indy"? Also, Burl is correct. With the perception that Dario, Helio, Tony, Scott, even Marco and so on are all in love with each other, and "help" each other to win, it cannot help. It is hard to imagine Tom Sneva assisting say, Johnny Rutherford to a win by keeerrr-asssshhhing his race car. But easy to imagine of the likes of Dario. Fanboi's get angry, but that is exactly what happend past Sunday, no? Oh, yes. Yes, it did. And yet people are asked to pay primo dollar for viewing such folly. Bad juju, Dario, Bad juju. Ask Emerson what happens when you insult the Speedway. The whole thing is a sad club car league.
      • Actual .1rl racing fans
        are few and far between. That's the story here. D might think the turd sandwich served up as indicar is fantastic, but the rest of the country/world thinks it's disgusting. They don't watch. They laugh at the ugly cars and the nobodies driving them and think: My gosh. Who in their right mind would present this as top tier racing, and what kind of delusional fanboi would buy it as such?----------------------------- Enjoy your poopburger while you can, folks. Most of us are now eating prime rib at the F1 café...
        • Get There Early-Stay Late
          Not for actual racing fans.
          • Live TV
            Let's see, leave home at 7am to avoid a two hour fight with traffic; then sit among the tatoos with a noise level preventing any conversation for three hours; then fight the post-race traffic for an hour---OR stay at home with friends, family, food/drink and watch the race LIVE on my flat screen? Tough decision.
          • "Only" 3.7?
            That's 3.7 better than their local (live) TV coverage. When "loaning" them money was mentioned, I saw it as a perfect opportunity to leverage them into showing local, live TV. "loaning" as in "we'll never see the $100M". It will be overlooked in a handful of years. If they continue to handle entrance into the track the way they did this year, their attendance will be reduced to 3.7.
          • Ask the Blackhawks
            Look at the Chgo Blackhawks (NHL Hockey) as a reminder of how important the local market is. Their owner would not place the home games on TV for decades as he felt that his allegiance was to the fans that actually buy tickets. He had 15,000 season ticket holders at one point and eventually it went down to 4500. He died and his son took over the team and put ALL games on TV. They now sell 22,000 tickets per game with all games sold out, merchandise and advertising sales through the roof. The sport in Chicago became eroded because the locals were not part of the team. INDY 500 executives need to take a lesson from the old Blackhawk owner as to what NOT to do to increase exposure.
          • Call a Spade a Spade
            Saying the race coverage would be live on early morning TV is NOT LIVE RACE COVERAGE. If ABC actually showed the race live as it occurred in the early afternoon I would have watched it. When you know by 3:30 who the winner is, who wants to watch it from 7-9PM? Having it blacked out in Indy was the big mistake ABC made in this deal. Where else are you going to find Indy 500 fans? Some of us physically can't make it to the track and we'd love to watch it actually as it happens. Those guys missed the boat big time and it cost them millions of dollars. Quite a big mistake boys!
          • Over at Whackforum...
            ...one of the oddies thaty populate that forum did nail one. In discussing Dario purposely wrecking to give his man-boi crush TK a big Indy win, the poster thought the best thing to happen, soon hopefully, is for the old CART set to retire and go away. America has just nver embraced the Delio Kaandixon's of the motor racing world. Toss in the ride-buyer chicks and golden spoon wannabee's with Daddy's last name, and it is a recipe for nobody cares. I was there Sunday. The racing was great, until Dario deliberately wrecked to assure TK's sin, but the place was spartan of attendance and now the TV ratings are second-lowest since the live days began? Wow. I did watch a tape delay of the race. Yawn. Yawn again. The TV crew is horrible. The IMS Radio Network and Dave Colabro really capture the excitement of the event in a magnificent way. I listened to both in my T3 seats. They are great! Indy needs a new TV partner and some more Ed Carpenter's and Conor Daly's. Not more Delio Kaandixon. Ain't nobody into that. They just cheer for TK because usually he is a wreckin', unless one if his man-boi buds gifts him a win or versa vice-a like. The whole thing sucks right now and this was my 34th straight Indy 500. Best racing I have seeen. Worst atmosphere. Discipless, what of all empties you and I both saw Sunday? We both saw SOOOO mnay empty seats!
          • Who watches live anymore?
            All of this whining about ratings is a joke. Who watches these big events live anymore? People don't have the time (or don't want to take the time such as myself) so we record them to zip through the boring parts or to watch it at a later time. Networks need to find a better way to land advertisers than depending on ratings-it is 2013 after all. Also, I have to agree with the poster who called ABC's coverage of the 500 "lifeless." As a racing fan who watches Indy as well as NASCAR-the folks at Speed and Fox make watching NASCAR entirely entertaining (and informative). Whether it is the accents, the stories or the banter it works. Couldn't say that about what ABC/ESPN did. Would have rather listened to Dave Calabro instead.
          • Live Coverage Would Help
            This race made Indianapolis, all else INDY came after because of this race, so we need it, and it will improve. LIVE COVERAGE at the moment of racing is all it needs!! We'd have a million or more new viewers just within the blackout area if it was LIVE! There is no NBA or NFL making blackout decisions due to ticket sales, only the IMS and the current media contacts. Coverage of the night before parties on 16th & G'Town would also probably be a hit. Being LIVE on TV would not hurt ticket sales, but would probably sell more last minute tickets. NASCAR is the most boring single-file fraud out there, and it sells because it's usually live. Who wants to watch a rerun at 6PM when you know who won?..duhh!...and after you heard it on the radio? The local media said we don't get enough big name stars to come, hell no one even remembers when the race is if they live in LA or New York, they have to invited, then they may show up? A variety of engines and car types would surly help also....remember the Novi, Turbine, Offenhauser, etc. from the 1960's....they made it all exciting because all was unpredictable.
            • Good Points Diciple
              But, the dip in ratings could also be further proof they need to go faster. New Track Records could go a long way on saving $ spent on shots in the dark marketing schemes. Just Sayin'. That said, this was a great year at the Track & things are heading in a good direction. Stay the course, Indy Diciples.
            • More Answers
              "So Mr. Disciple of All Things Indycar, are you saying the folks here at IBJ are obsessed internet television executives and have again twisted reality to concoct a perception of failure?" No. Only some of them. My witty barb was primarily aimed at obsessed squatters who interpret anything that happens in IndyCar as bad news "Maybe the IBJ folks are also youthful internet haters that haven't moved into the new century?" Most of them are not. But most go for lowest common denominator, easily digestible interpretations of news. If they really wanted to flesh out the story they would dig into the breakouts and correlate ad sales revenue, which is actually pretty good. But that would require subject knowledge. "And, good try to make things seem all okay since that lowly F1 series only managed to do a 1.+ ratings at 8:00 am in the morning in this country and does not include ratings from some of the Spanish-language broadcasters covering a good portion of the American viewers." I made relevant comparisons. Ratings have as much to do with times slots as anything else. F-1 in prime on an OTA may have approached the NASCAR number. NASCAR outside prime would have been a lot less. IndyCar getting what it did in one of the least watched portions of the day when anyone not at the race is over at grandmas eating grilled animals is remarkable. "Also, isn't it rather deceptive to use F1 ratings against the biggest race in the entire world?" Not really. It is still a niche in this country though. "Seems kind of defeating since the great race is getting down there near that 1.+ rating with a 3.7 when it used to be up in the 9s and 8s." Most everything on television had equally proportionate higher ratings at (insert a self perceived utopian period of yore here). To think IndyCar is alone in this department denotes willful ignorance. "Beside, you just used the same overnight rating you chide others for. Who knows, maybe F1 reaches even better demographic breakouts than Indycar. I just don't get it. Maybe you could clear that up for us. Thanks." Both are strong 18-34 and 18-49 males. But I would either have to purchase the number or get permission from someone who has, and I am unwilling to do that simply to argue with people on the internet.
            • Just checking...
              So Mr. Disciple of All Things Indycar, are you saying the folks here at IBJ are obsessed internet television executives and have again twisted reality to concoct a perception of failure? After all, they are using terms like "near all-time low" in the headline and have sentences such as: "This year's ratings surely are a disappointment to both ABC/ESPN and the IndyCar series." Maybe the IBJ folks are also youthful internet haters that haven't moved into the new century? And, good try to make things seem all okay since that lowly F1 series only managed to do a 1.+ ratings at 8:00 am in the morning in this country and does not include ratings from some of the Spanish-language broadcasters covering a good portion of the American viewers. Also, isn't it rather deceptive to use F1 ratings against the biggest race in the entire world? Seems kind of defeating since the great race is getting down there near that 1.+ rating with a 3.7 when it used to be up in the 9s and 8s. Beside, you just used the same overnight rating you chide others for. Who knows, maybe F1 reaches even better demographic breakouts than Indycar. I just don't get it. Maybe you could clear that up for us. Thanks.
            • Municipal finance
              Joe- I'm guessing you not up to speed (no pun intended)on how sale tax increment financing STIF is generated...the state isn't really throwing $100 million at IMS. Just a point of clarification. If you look at the financial impact the race and facility have had in Indianapolis for decades than it's not a stretch to let them use the sales tax they are generating to make some much needed improvements and enhance the fan experience.
              • Some comments on comments
                I completely agree with Danny Mack. Some friends who had attended the race for 20 years before moving to California in 1998 came back for the race and thought it was one of the most exciting ever. While it is always a bummer to end on a yellow light, what we saw all day was competitive racing. Phil raises interesting points on radio vs. TV coverage. Radio plays what we heard at the track with Dave Calabro delivering the most exciting commentary on sports anywhere. Knowledgeable, involved, and engaging all day long. Way to go Dave, your a real pro! There are big challenges still ahead for Indy Car, but I am optimistic for the future.
              • Move Over. Help Is On The Way.
                How quaint. The obsessed Internet television executives have again twisted reality to concoct a perception of failure to fit their personal prejudice (or ignorance as the case may be). Cute. In my continuing effort to dumb down the discussion to the only criteria meaningful to the peanut gallery; i.e., 12+ overnights that are never actually used in the commerce of television advertising, here is a factual representation of the numbers in correct context. NASCAR in prime time on an OTA network (when the potential audience is largest) got a 4.2. The 500 on an OTA network in the morning and early afternoon got a 3.7 (statistically steady). F-1 on an OTA network early in the morning got a 1.0. It all seems OK to me, and I am in the business of such commerce. Should any of you obsessively pushing panic buttons screeching hysterically replete with twisted nonsense interpretation desire to have a meaningful conversation about actual numbers and how they are used in television commerce, I'm your man. Just think....after the ABC portion is up you can go back to yelping about sub 1's. Won't that be fun!
              • key metrics
                Where o where is Defender- Disciple to explain how the low rating is actually an increase in key metrics. I can't wait for that spin job!
              • Boring?
                If racing is boring, then why is NASCAR as successful as it is. It is all about marketing and NASCAR markets the crap out of their product(along with their TV partners) and it is an inferior product. IT will never be what it was, but it can be better.
              • How Ratings Work
                It is important to point out Nielsen ratings are based on how many people watched the entire broadcast - if you turn the station before the end of the broadcast time you don't count. I'm sure the race ending so quickly gave almost an hour to fill after the race so it is hard to keep people on channel.
              • Indy Racing still needs help
                I thought the race was great- but I have to admit seeing it delayed in town sux. But it was an exciting race. They need Danica back to help draw in the fringe fan. I actually watch ESPN and they had commercials running all weekend prior to the race. They still need to develope the racers more. Give us a reason to watch. You need a bad guy, a good guy and the races need to be on a channel other than NBC Sports Network.
              • Investment opportunity
                This failing enterprise seems worthy of investing in. Hey, state lawmakers and mike pence: what say we throw $100 million at this economic development opportunity. And how is such an investment different from the kinds of investments that pence railed at when he was a useless member of congress? The gop is so inconsistent - no wondermtheir brand is in the toilet
              • Don't blame the race
                If 68 lead changes and 14 different leaders isn't exciting racing, I don't know what is. The networks need to key in on the fact that the new Indy car design allows for this type of racing consistently! If the ratings are down, don't blame the race. It was the most exciting of the 27 I've attended.
              • Yawner
                All the cars are the same, except some have lame Honda engines - boring. The personalities involved are hardly exciting and we really don't have a clue as to where the drivers come from. Our Hoosier pole winner was kind of nice, but would it have been better if he was from Manual HS and IU rather than Park Tudor and Butler? The series just doesn't have much going for it and all of the past's bad decisions are coming home to roost. Times have changed.
                • Duh
                  Who wants to watch cars go around, round, round, and round a freaking oval track anymore? BORING.
                • The product is garbage, that's why.
                  Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of frauds. Really looking forward to the glorious day when the leeg is shuttered permanently and IMS is reduced to a strip mall with a corner museum.
                • Pink elephant in the room
                  Its so obvious to all the people who no longer go or watch on TV. Some of us bring forth the reason why and how to fix it....since 1994. No one has listened. It gives me great pleasure to say we were right. To watch this all flounder so bad is akin to winning it all. SO much has been lost to satisfy the needs of a few. So, raise your glass and toast the pink elephant in the room...and more 3.7s for everybody. When you sell your rights to your product you lose control of it. IMS was so desperate for $ they sold the rights to ABC and Versus. The trend is not up, it's down. Way down. And tix and taxes cost more. The perfect storm?
                • Radio v TV
                  I listened to the live radio broadcast then watched ABC for the re-broadcast. Hard to believe it was the same race. The radio broadcast conveyed the excitement of the race while ABC sounded lifeless.
                • 1 Reason
                  Crapwagons never did draw. Try turning the rules back to the way they were and allow all people that choose to compete do just that. Spoiled little rich kids out playing with their toys isn't racing.....its a parade. Racing comes from competition. Not 33 of the same car, same engine, same gearbox, same tires. Innovation and tracks records draw people in. not "parity".
                • Great Race
                  If people like racing, they'll watch it. It's still a money maker for all involved. I haven't understood over the past few years why most of the IndyCar coverage has been on VS or NBC Sports, and then the actual race is on ABC? Seems just like ABC is hanging on to it for nostalgia. If Tom Brady or Lebron were driving, I'm sure they would promote it more!
                • Adieu, Speedway
                  The race is already dead to most of America. The comment about ESPN promoting it is laughable. ESPN PROMOTES WHAT SELLS! It's as simple as that. Nobody cares about this race any more. You can attack me all you want. The numbers are proof. This thing is dead. Maybe it makes it to 100, thanks to the taxpayer. It doesn't make it much past that, mark my words.
                • The reason
                  Here's the problem: Too many people think it's boring. Aside from a small, hard core group of race fans. Things have changed since the hey-day. There are too many other options available today for entertainment
                • Consider
                  While it's probably hard to determine the exact cause of this (and there could be multiple). I have to think if ABC & ESPN actually promoted the sport and advertised the race it would have helped. ESPN does so little stories on Indycar and I didn't see any advertisements for the race on ABC (not saying they were not there, just didn't see any).
                • Better
                  The delayed 500 was more entertaining than the Pacer game of the Nascar race.

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