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The Indiana Senate voted Monday to prohibit any state contracts or grants with Planned Parenthood or other organizations that provide abortions.

The prohibition was added by a 36-13 vote to a bill that would cut four weeks off the time that abortions would be allowed and give the state some of the nation's tightest abortion restrictions.

Sen. Scott Schneider, R-Indianapolis, said Planned Parenthood of Indiana was to receive about $3 million this budget year in state-related funding, mostly federal money that the state distributes for health programs. The proposal is similar to an effort that Republicans in Congress agreed to drop earlier this month. The GOP dropped the plan that would have cut off federal funding of Planned Parenthood as part of the deal that averted a shutdown of the federal government.

"This amendment will make sure that taxpayers are not forced to subsidize something that they morally have an objection to," Schneider said.

Planned Parenthood provided more than 5,500 abortions in Indiana last year and had revenue of about $15.7 million.

Opponents of the provision argued that state and federal laws prohibit government grants from going toward abortions. They said the money Planned Parenthood receives is used to provide services such as birth control and pelvic and breast exams to thousands of low-income women.

Sen. Vaneta Becker, R-Evansville, said she didn't understand why legislators would take a step of reducing women's access to health service at some time the state is cutting funding toward programs for mentally disabled children.

"If we are so concerned about pregnancy before children are born, why are we not as concerned after children are born?" Becker said.

Schneider said the provision would not reduce any funding for health programs and that more than 60 clinics around the state provide similar screening services as Planned Parenthood's 28 locations. Hospitals where abortions are performed could still receive state funding.

Planned Parenthood officials complained that the funding ban wasn't considered by a Senate committee after hearing public testimony.

"It is an abomination that lawmakers continue to engage in counterproductive discussions and actions when it comes to public health policy in our state," Betty Cockrum, president of Planned Parenthood of Indiana. "If they want to reduce the number of abortions, it makes no sense to make birth control harder to get for thousands of Hoosiers."

A House committee approved a similar funding ban, but that bill wasn't voted on by the full House because of the five-week walkout by Democrats over other legislation.

The Senate could vote as soon as Tuesday on the passage of the bill; the House still must vote on the complete version.

The bill would ban abortions after the 20th week of pregnancy unless there is a substantial threat to the woman's life or health. Indiana law now permits abortions up to the point of a fetus' viability — about 24 weeks.

Indiana would join Nebraska and North Carolina in banning abortions after the 20th week of pregnancy, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive-health research organization that supports abortion rights.

Planned Parenthood of Indiana says 96 percent of abortions in the state take place in the first 13 weeks of pregnancy.

The bill also requires abortion providers to tell women in writing that human life begins when the egg is fertilized, that abortions could increase infertility chances and that a fetus might feel pain at or before 20 weeks.

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  • PPH
    have you ever had an abortion?
    it does not produce hope.
    its murder....I used to be all for those so-called women's rights agendas, but I have come to believe quite the opposite is true.
    killing children never produces 'self-esteem' and 'hope'.
    When you 'kill' a baby, right inside your own body, it leaves an mark that can never be erased....there's so much to say and you will not understand in these few sentences, and yes, those 'people' praying for an end to abortion do have lots of alternatives for those who feel like they have no other alternative but to kill an innocent person.
  • Yeah more babys for welfare.
    I have to agree firewoman1220 & This is horrifying. If health care is not available for the working poor and indigent. The plan on paying for more babys and families on welfare. Sure that is what I want my tax dollars spent on...NOT!! Support Planned Parenthood. Fire the male senators next election. They do not care for womens rights...
  • Keep PP funded
    To the people that sit in lawn chairs outsite the Planned Parenthood on Georgetown Road - or any other PP clinic - instead of protesting a place that provided valuable services why not become go to the source and HELP the people you think needed it? Become a Big Brother or Big Sister, or a Boy Scout or Girl Scout leader. Anything would be more productive and helpful to society than getting a few cars to honk.

    If your true aim is to prevent abortions, start by ensuring birth control is availalbe to those who need it. Educate kids about the importance of being safe - not just preventing pregnancy but preventing STDs. Then go on to help at-risk kids develop self esteem and HOPE!

    As a lifeling Republican, and someone who whole-heartedly believes in family values, I am sickened by the narrow-mindedness and short-sightedness of our state's representatives.
  • Keep PP funded
    To the people that sit in lawn chairs outsite the Planned Parenthood on Georgetown Road - or any other PP clinic - instead of protesting a place that provided valuable services why not become go to the source and HELP the people you think needed it? Become a Big Brother or Big Sister, or a Boy Scout or Girl Scout leader. Anything would be more productive and helpful to society than getting a few cars to honk.

    If your true aim is to prevent abortions, start by ensuring birth control is availalbe to those who need it. Educate kids about the importance of being safe - not just preventing pregnancy but preventing STDs. Then go on to help at-risk kids develop self esteem and HOPE!

    As a lifeling Republican, and someone who whole-heartedly believes in family values, I am sickened by the narrow-mindedness and short-sightedness of our state's representatives.
  • Sure! Let's regress ...
    FEDERAL FUNDS ARE NOT USED FOR ABORTIONS!!!What is it Republicans don't understand. What kind of American would want to deny women health care? This is a travesty. This takes us back 40 years. Unbelievable!! I am ashamed to live in this state!!!
  • Disgusted
    Our state government is a joke. This is an abomination. I'm embarrassed to be called a Hoosier today. Once again, thanks to the Republicans, women in need of care are out of luck. Way to go, gang. One can always rely on a Republican to maintain an uninformed, irresponsible, utterly absurd and shortsighted view of health care. What a bunch of clowns you are.
  • You have control
    Preston, you have control over how you tax dollars are spent. It's called voting. And this is what the niave people of indiana elected. This is all about how the conservative republicans got themselves elected by promising to cut spending. And after elected, decided to pass every law possible to move us to a state not separate of religion. They want a right wing christian state with no abortion, no gays, no foreigners, no minorities, no drinking, and support gun toting like the old west. This is their plan. Get used to it. They have no interest in reducing taxes or cutting spending or creating jobs. It's very scary. Is anyone else scared?
  • Agree to Disagree
    I am both amazed and saddened to see some of the comments on this issue. I pay a considerable amount of taxes to both the US and the State of Indiana and I have no control over how those tax dollars are spent. Abortion is legal, people, if you have a moral objection to it, then don't have one. I have a moral objection to needless and senseless wars where we lose too many young lives, but I cannot direct where my tax dollars go any more than you can. The state legislators this year have truly shown they are nothing but a theocracy, not a democracy, and for that they should be ashamed...
    • Thought we were better than this
      I am truly shocked and amazed by all that has transpired during this legislative session -- both in the content of the various legislative initiatives and the comments and attitudes of the supporters of it. I am sad for the future of the state of Indiana if this is the majority.
    • Turning the clock back
      I am truly shocked and amazed by all that has transpired during this legislative session.

      Please Lord, forgive them, for they know not what they do.
      • Amused
        I am absolutely amazed at the posters on here saying "Keep your religious politics out of my government!"; "Who marries who and what women do with their bodies are not their concern!"; "Stay out of our personal lives." And, yet, you WANT that same government to invade MY personal pocket book and continue to use MY tax dollars to fund PP resources. Really?? And, that's fair how?

        Dan makes a great point. Hold fundraisers. If the public sector donates to the causes they agree with and support, those in need can continue to utilize the resources PP provides and I can keep my tax dollars.

      • Very disturbing
        I am currently pregnant and fully support PPIN. They offer services to many hoosier women, not just low income. There are many young women who are willing to go to PPIN for reproductive health and questions. I also do not like that the government is trying to put a lower time limit on abortions. I am 16 weeks pregnant, will not have my second blood work until 17 weeks and the ultrasound and amnio until 18-19 weeks. If heaven forbid there is something seriously wrong with the fetus, that gives me no time to make a decision to terminate the pregnancy. This decision would be hard enough without the government limiting where I can go for help and advice.

        They should be applauding PPIN for using the funding to help educate our youth and allow them to make informed decisions- not take away one of the only places left for young adults to get factual information. They don't allow schools to teach factual inforamtion to students anymore and many students are not comfortable asking their teachers which they see everyday or their parents these questions.

        It is very sad and I am very disappointed in the State of Indiana.
      • Legal
        This is the wrong way to go about it. I respect that you find abortion morally wrong, but as long as it is a legal medical procedure then our country as a whole has deemed it morally acceptable and it should not be treated differently than any other legal medical procedure.
        This is no different than the fact that I believe the wars in the MidEast are morally wrong; however, there will never be a bill that allows us to pull tax dollars from the military budget simply because we as a country deem the wars to be necessary. Until people who feel the same as me can effectively change the country's viewpoint on this, I have to accept that my tax dollars are going to fund wars.
        People who share your beliefs on abortion should be making every feasible effort to make abortion illegal, not pulling funding from groups that perform abortions (and in this case, provide many other valuable services).
      • Alternative Resources
        Frankly, I don't care whether Planned Pasrenthood performs abortions or not. I agree that it provides valuable health services to women.

        However, I don't think the government (i.e. the taxpayer) ought to be funding Planned Parenthood any more than it does a number of other organizations. There are plenty of ways for Planned Parenthood to fulfill its mission every bit as well without a dime of taxpayer money.

        Hold fundraisers. Form a 501(c)(3) so donations are tax deductible. Have local Run/Walk Events. Look at the success of Susan G. Komen Foundation -- people can't wait to help out! Other organizations like the American Cancer Society, the March of Dimes, St Judes, Riley Hospital raise unbelievable amounts of money from the private sector.

        As a country, we are going to go broke if we don't quit demanding taxpayer funding for everything that comes along.
      • Jane rhymes with Ayn
        First Jane...you are responsible for other people's situation, like it or not. If you work currently, your taxes are going to pay social security, Medicare/Medicaid for people currently on those roles, thanks to your not very well meaning legislators of the past and present, who beg borrow and steal from every money trough so that they can keep telling you that you can have low taxes, and still have all the public services you want. You are funding wars with your tax dollars...I personally would prefer PP not fund abortions, but I sure as Hades don't want them to stop dispensing contraception, or performing pelvics...PP is a cost control organization, and they do a good job of it. Well spent tax dollars if there ever were any.
        • Close Planned Parenthood
          1) For every tax dollar PP receives - regardless of how it's "supposed" to be spent, goes toward providing abortions. Think not? You have two incomes; all paychecks are deposited to one account. Boss #2 says you can't use his paycheck to buy, oh, maybe shoes, or something. Next trip to the shoe store, you write the check (or swipe the debit card). Did you make sure that none of boss #2's money was covering that check? No, of course not.
          2) Even if you managed to somehow impose accounting practices that would keep the state money separate from other revenue... every cent of the state money used for, say, office supplies leaves that much more of the OTHER revenue sources for abortions.

          Like I said, the only way to insure that no state funds are used for abortions is to provide NO state funds to the abortion provider - regardless of "restrictions"; they're too easy to circumvent.

          Vote this puppy in!
        • Really.....
          I'm a bit surprised about these comments. I'm only the second to support the decision. Here's the deal... IF abortions are only 3% of what PP does, then stop doing them and you'll have a shot at keeping MY tax dollars. It's obsurd that I, a gainfully employed taxpayer of over 30 years should have MY tax dollars TAKEN from me and freely GIVEN to an organization that provides procedures I morally DISAGREE with 100%. Same with NPR... I don't listen to it, I don't want it, and MY tax dollars shouldn't be taken from me to provide something absolutely usless to 90% of the population. If you want abortions, fund it with donations from people who believe in your cause. If you want a radio station in the remote wilds, all the neighbors can pitch in and pay for it.
          • Empower Women- Support PPIN
            PlannedParenthood does great work in our communities. Empowering women with healthy options to make choices will REDUCE unwanted pregnancies.

            Scott Schneider: Get work to work on creating JOBS and EDUCATION and and the BUSINESS of of Indiana- Stay out of our personal lives...I can't imagine anyone who is looking to our elected official to make our moral and ethical decisions! Certainly not I!
          • Shame on you
            Get the real information. Planned parenthood does amazing work for many in need of help, guidance and support that they cannot, for whatever reason, get elsewhere. Pulling support for this agency is a backward step. Talk about taking the right to safe healthcare and reliable information away from those who need it most. So who will your teen turn to for help?
          • Thank you!!
            The problem is NOT whether Planned Parenthood is or is not good for women's healthcare, provides preventative screening, birth control, etc. The problem is I, as a taxpayer, should NOT be required to pay for someone else's situation. Open PP up for donations from those who do want to contribute to the cause. I DON'T.
          • Wow
            Like I need another reason to hate myself for voting for Scott Schneider. Thanks, senator! I'll be at the bar.
          • Planned Parenthood Supporter
            I agree with firewoman1220. The legislators need to work on JOBS and the ECONOMY. Who marries who and what women do with their bodies are not their concern!
          • Planned Parenthood Supporter
            I get more and more disillusioned with our government every day. Planned Parenthood is ESSENTIAL to the health and well being of women. Even if we now can afford regular doctor visits, how many women have had to use Planned Parenthood at some point in their lives? Without it there will be MORE unplanned pregnancies, more undetected cancers, etc. This is just ridiculous. These idiots are pandering to the religious right and distributing false information and promoting their own ideology for political gain. Why they want to attack women is beyond me. I'm ashamed and embarrassed of this state, as I never have been before. Republicans are so preoccupied with what people are doing in the bedroom and with what women do with their uterus' I'm really beginning to wonder just what it is that they're so afraid of or what they're repressing. They need to work on JOBS and the ECONOMY. Who marries who and what women do with their bodies are not their concern!
            • Planned Parenthood is essential
              Planned Parenthood is a valuable health care provider that should be seen as a model for not for profit health services. They are a not for profit that has been operating in underserved communities for decades, providing essential care to people who cannot afford to go anywhere else.

              While people might have their differences about one service that Planned Parenthood provides, that service only accounts for 3% of what Planned Parenthood does. If you are anti-abortion you should love Planned Parenthood for all of the reproductive information and contraception they provide!

              97% of Planned Parenthood's services are preventative. $0.00 federal dollars go to abortion. Defunding Planned Parenthood is a misinformed witch hunt. Keep your religious politics out of my government!

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