A bill aimed at having an Arizona-style crackdown on illegal immigration in Indiana is on its way to the state Senate, but
some Republican senators expressed concerns Thursday about the ramifications for law enforcement and taxpayers.
Republican Sen. Tom Wyss of Fort Wayne joined the Senate Appropriations Committee's four Democrats in voting against
the bill, saying he believed the federal government should deal with immigration matters and that such a state law could lead
to other problems.
"We're going to have some law officers overstep their authority," Wyss said. "We're going to have
people doing things that are going to cause us trouble in a legal manner."
The proposal underwent some changes before the committee advanced it on an 8-5 vote.
Amendments included a change to require officers enforcing employment laws to have probable cause to ask for proof of a person's
immigration status. Police officers stopping someone for other offenses can ask for such proof under the lower legal standard
of reasonable suspicion.
The committee also deleted a provision calling for the Office of Management and Budget to calculate the costs of illegal
immigration to the state and seek reimbursement from Congress.
Republican Sen. Ed Charbonneau of Valparaiso called the changes "lipstick, rouge, eyeliner and fake eyelashes on an
ugly bill" and said he only voted to pass it out of the committee because the issue was important enough to be debated
by the full Senate.
"I'm concerned about the message that we're delivering that maybe Indiana isn't the welcoming, inviting,
inclusive state that many people thought that we were," Charbonneau said. "I think ultimately something like this
bill would have a major negative impact on our economic development as we continue to move Indiana toward being a global state."
Republicans hold a 37-13 majority in the Senate, so more than one-third of the Republicans would need to join all Democrats
in order to defeat the bill. Gov. Mitch Daniels has declined to take a public stance on the proposal, which also calls for
most government documents and hearings to be made available only in English and sets up tax penalties for businesses repeatedly
caught hiring illegal immigrants.
Sen. Brent Waltz, R-Greenwood, told the committee that hundreds of millions of dollars from Indiana taxpayers is spent a
year dealing with illegal immigrants and that the bill would send the message "that we are state and nation of laws."
"Individuals or corporations that choose to break the law suffer consequences and are punished accordingly," Waltz
said.
Sen. John Broden, D-South Bend, raised concerns that cash-strapped local police departments would bear the brunt of the costs
for arresting and detaining possible illegal immigrants. Sen. Earline Rogers, D-Gary, said that as the only minority on the
committee she was sensitive to racial profiling and that blacks are stopped more often than whites for traffic violations.
"Hopefully along the line more reasonable heads will prevail and we will realize this is something the state of Indiana
does not need to have to do at this time," Rogers said.
Bill sponsor Sen. Mike Delph, R-Carmel, said he was confident it would win approval from the full Senate.
"We tried to put together a product that is tough but fair so I understand how senators can struggle with searching
to find what is the right thing to do," Delph said.

















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Joyce HaleFebruary 18, 2011 4:04 PM
Since when do we enforce our laws based on the impact on our economy? All are welcome to enter our wonderful country legally. I believe we are only asking for the demise of our legal system when we pick and choose to optionally enforce our laws.
So Agreed,The City of Bloomington Indiana incitement for Boycott of Arizona 5-17-2010 Declaration letter, is Direct Constitution Contempt! it is out of line! End of Story!
Itâ??s time to Vote out or sue out City of Bloomingtonâ??s common defense Leadership for the unconstitutional incitement of Boycott of Arizona 5-17-2010 Declaration letter, itâ??s Direct Constitution Contempt!
Book by John R. Schmidhauser. Constitutional Law in American politics. Chapter five page 122 {Gibbons V. Ogden}, 9 Wheaton 1 (1824). Supreme Court Chief Justice Marshall. The Court so upheld, Only Congress can regulate Inter States Commerce!
I sigh the Gibbons v. Ogden 9 Wheaton 1 1824 case, It has been said that they were sovereign, {â??The Statesâ??} were completely independent, and were connected with each other only by a â??Leagueâ??! I so so add it would be for the Common League of Common defense for the National defense to secure the well being of we the people from threats! To reject such to let open border be without being secured would be Treason at the rate of witch laws are so passed to disarm we the people, I so sight the rancher case by the late Judge Federal Judge Roll who should have been disbarred , as well I so sight H.R. 2640 Veterans Disarmament Act & S 2084, H.R. 45, H.R. 5820 Ban on Traditional Ammunition! http://momus1978.posterous.com/peter-king-introducing-gun-control-legislatio
Treason Article 3 Section 3 US Constitution Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A3Sec3.html
Even the view they may bring of I sigh the Gibbons v. Ogden 9 Wheaton 1 1824 case,
It has been said that they were sovereign, {â??The Statesâ??} were completely independent, and were connected with each other only by a â??Leagueâ??!
sence Obama and Clinton are worth so much and have so much "What a joke", fine for every perosn that is Ill Affected from crimes carried out because they failed to act being paid to act! Each person who has lost because of crimes from should sue for the taxes they paid to recover what was lost dereliction of duty to the Oath of office as the leadership of common defense Direct Criminal Constitutional Contemp!
What Bloomington is doing
From what I understand that is like was part of the fuse of the Civil War!
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Joyce HaleFebruary 18, 2011 4:04 PM
Since when do we enforce our laws based on the impact on our economy? All are welcome to enter our wonderful country legally. I believe we are only asking for the demise of our legal system when we pick and choose to optionally enforce our laws.
So Agreed,The City of Bloomington Indiana incitement of Boycott of Arizona 5-17-2010 Declaration letter, is Direct Constitution Contempt! it is out of line! End of Story!
Historical Note
{Gibbons V. Ogden}, 9 Wheaton 1 (1824). Supreme Court Chief Justice Marshall. The Court so upheld, Only Congress can regulate Inter States Commerce!
What Bloomington is doing
From what I understand that was part of the fuse of the civil war!
One way to Stop or check is to check with the selective service records!
Itâ??s time to Vote out City of Bloomingtonâ??s common defense Leadership for the unconstitutional incitement of Boycott of Arizona 5-17-2010 Declaration letter, itâ??s Direct Constitution Contempt!
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Book by John R. Schmidhauser. Constitutional Law in American politics. Chapter five page 122 {Gibbons V. Ogden}, 9 Wheaton 1 (1824). Supreme Court Chief Justice Marshall. The Court so upheld, Only Congress can regulate Inter States Commerce!
On 9-15-2010 The City of Bloomington Indiana declares public comment time is not a right and our constitution does not protect such rights and seeks to restrain the right of inter-action at city town hall meetings. Tort claims are being filed to suit them for the actions of constitutional contempt, using United States Title 42 United States Code Section 1983. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode42/usc_sec_42_00001983----000-.html
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Filed January 01- Day 04 2011, a $33 million Dollar Tort Claim to Suit City of Bloomington Monroe County Indiana Elected & Appointed for Direct Constitutional Contempt. For the Unconstitutional Restraint of 1st Amendment Freedom of Speech & Redress of Grievance. No taxation without representation is tyranny! So Out lined in the rules of Public Comment So passed & unconstitutionally upheld. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_taxation_without_representation
Notes and New related to Arizona Boycott:
A Bloomington Police Department investigation into harassing postcards recently sent to city council members yielded no criminal charges for the person who sent them.
BPD Capt. Joe Qualters said the postcards addressed to each individual city council member and sent to City Hall contained harassing
Comments in response to the Mayor Mark Kruzan & councilâ??s vote to boycott Arizona businesses over Governor Jan Brewer the stateâ??s controversial immigration law.
The 1st Amendment was upheld and used to rebuke the Common defense traitors. Thank God the police did not stop the action of A good use of the Constitution and the 1St Amendment, too bad the Mayor does not understand what the terms Common defense Leadership Means otherwise he would never Said wrote the letter dated May 17th 2010 sighting a Boycott.
In the Letter, itâ??s States â??Any immigration reform must balance fairness, compassion, and {SECRUTIY},
I write if his views of security are what they are as to live with a open border for just anyone without just do restraint as Obama is wanting with Open borders, to be able to carry out crimes against legal Americans then letting those same Illegalâ??s being to suit legal American for securing their safety as like the rancher case then what is the point of paying the Taxes to pay for the common defense to secure the well being of.
Was not the reason of government created to do as such! The Tax System was so created bases on such history that under the Home steed Act and daws Act of 1887 we the people are still sovereign hence forth for the right to keep and bear arm shall not be infringed. The federal System was to be voluntary. The States right of collection of Taxes was to pay for the Common defense a police force in a time of war and without a time of war on United States soil was to pay for the protection of us the people. Obama and the anti self defense anti Arm treasons seek to maintain to form a like Police State.
The federal system was to be voluntary unless a war was so being fought on â??United Soilâ?? to pay for again the Common defense to protect the United States or the Common â??Leagueâ?? in form of the National defense leads by the executive Branch of Government common defense League. From threats!
Historical Note Ben Franklin was one that so create the Common defense Active police force! The reason the Star of David is so on our Federal Common defense crest is because of the History of in part for the honor of the polish Jew Hebrew Man Named Haymn Solomon as I understand he sighted the Torah & Bible for such self defense views Nehemiah Chapter 4 and Esther 8:11
I sigh the Gibbons v. Ogden 9 Wheaton 1 1824 case,
It has been said that they were sovereign, {â??The Statesâ??} were completely independent, and were connected with each other only by a â??Leagueâ??!
In My view Mayor Kruzan ,Isabel Piedmont Smith President district V rep, Andy Ruff Vice President , Parliamentarian district 3 Rep. Mike Satterfield, At-Large Rep. Tim Mayer, At- Large Rep. Susan Sandberg , District 1 Rep Chris Sturbaum, District Rep IV. Dave Rollo , District Rep VI. Steve Volm, City Clerk Regina Moore, and The Mayors Lawyers should be disbarred for backing such. They Should be Voted and or suited out for not seeking to get the vote of we the people before Acting to sight â?? We The Peopleâ?? The â??League â?? Boycott Arizona, I mean come on at least a Town Hall meeting should have took place, that did not. But because of such rules of public comment like # 5 and the Statement made as such the constitution does not give us such right to speak and town hall meeting let alone are we let to have dialog and is such part of the reason for the Tort Claim filed.
I will not be intimidated By rules that say if you did not do as we say and seek to speak up YOU will BE Removed by the Misuse of The very Defense your as the leadership of so are misusing. I personally have removed By Police Because I spoke out!
The City Government & Mayor's Actions are Unconstitutional. Congress is the only ones that have the power to control markets, Constitutional Law in American politics. Book by John R. Schmidhauser Chapter five page 122, {Gibbons V. Ogden} 9 Wheaton 1 (1824). Supreme Court Chief Justice Marshall, Upholds Only Congress can regulate Inter States Commerce!, Itâ??s time to Vote out City of Bloomingtonâ??s Leadership for the unconstitutional Boycott of Arizona 5-17-2010 Declaration letter, its direct Constitutional contempt!
The local government is way out of line in writing letters sighting Boycotts; itâ??s not illegal for common people to refuse to buy sell or trade it is Unconstitutional for local governments to!
It is wrong and an Act of treason By the Leadership of Common defense to reject the safety a well being of secured Borders from, Known threats to legal United States Americans.
Check YouTube this one is Good, he talks about {Gibbons V. Ogden} 9 Wheaton 1 (1824). Supreme Court Chief Justice Marshall, Upholds Only Congress can regulate Inter States Commerce!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRiCicJOa04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCNGzMVgTxE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_JZ7VXrKdg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C6ajXyMVi8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO-g9N6Faq4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODTd_-ovOY8
let us not add the never ending lists of rules but enforce what we already have. And the next time someone without a license or insurance runs into my car - the state better follow the law (citizen or not).
Make some real press and work on putting into place an environment that pushes Indiana beyond the middle tier of states in the Technology industry. Work on fixing the stateâ??s unemployment fund issues. Do anything that improves the economic climate in Indiana. Our representatives need to stop wasting our time.