Indiana courting two advanced manufacturing projects valued at $7.2B

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15 thoughts on “Indiana courting two advanced manufacturing projects valued at $7.2B

  1. $ 1,000,000,000 here, $500,000,000 there…at some point it seems like it is Monopoly money. Completely support attracting investment into Indiana, but wow, this is incredible amounts of cash.

    1. The state is the legal owner of the aquifer water that would be required, and companies will be charged for the water they consume.

    2. Indiana law treats groundwater like it’s an everlasting and inexhaustible resource. There are limits to how much ground water can be extracted before bad things start to happen, like other peoples wells go dry, or worse yet polluted water is drawn into the aquifer.

  2. You are correct Robert F. The public needs to understand this. If they want complain about “stealing their water” talk to the landowners that have sold it.

  3. Robert. Landowners do not own the aquifer beneath them. Based on our loose framework for water rights in Indiana (and based on the Nov24th IBJ article on this topic) a homeowner above water wells or adjacent to a river can access the water but they do not own it. If they pull a certain amount they have to register the usage. If a small well is impacted by local development homeowner has a right to compensation. But the landowners to not own the water rights below them.

  4. The math here gets whacky, and hard to tell which share of the 500M is for which project. If you add up all in the article we are spending $666.5M of the available $500M. Also the potential projects add up to about $70Billion. None of this seems correct or feasible.

  5. There’s a distinction between Indiana’s “land and pump” rules and hard allocations in Western Water Rights. In Indiana, one merely has to own land over an aquifer in order to pump. And there are few limitations on how much one can pump.

    In the West, they follow the “first in time, first in right” principle. If you started taking a defined quantity of water from a river or aquifer in 1880, your rights are senior to everyone who started taking water after you, and you are the first in line to withdraw up to your allocation amount. If that’s all there is, everyone junior is out of luck.

    In Indiana, there are no fixed rights…except under the Bigger Pump principle: if your bigger pump dries up a neighbor’s well, you have a responsibility/liability to restore a quantity of water to the neighbor (either by drilling their well deeper, or providing water from yours).

  6. This is simply business as usual. Trust me, every state shells out BIG money to get companies to invest in their state. Honestly if Indiana is going to compete with its peers let alone sunbelt states, the state is going to have to give HUGE incentives to attract companies. States are constantly competing with each other for these companies. I use to live in Louisville and trust me city county councilors there was always wondering how Indy and its metro area were always on the radar for economic development and how could they reap some of the same benefits. They soon realized that the only way to attract companies from California or Florida to move to Kentucky is to offer HUGE incentives. Thats just the facts and that’s exactly how Nashville Tennessee and other places have done it.

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