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Behold the impact of court packing… a justice the ABA said simply wasn’t ready for prime time proves them right. The multiple days of chaos inflicted by this snap ruling shows an intellect not ready for a lifetime legal appointment.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Kimball_Mizelle
This was a ruling in a federal district court, with the judge dictating it would apply nationwide. I was under the impression that a ruling in district court is only enforceable within the district where the ruling was made and only SCOTUS has the power of applying rulings nationwide. Am I missing something?
Brent – typically/ideally that’s true, but not exclusively. Some fundamentals about this issue preclude that jurisdictional limit, as we are talking about interstate commerce itself, can’t just remove enforcement in the district itself. And bigger picture, if the govt is exceeding its authority, the proper remedy is to enjoin any enforcement; every issue of govt overreach shouldnt have to go up to SCOTUS everytime for broad relief.
No one is saying you can’t wear your mask and Joe B, however the rest of us are tired of doing it. If you’re still that afraid then just don’t fly
Joe B – Feel free to triple mask, wear your Tyvex, and take all your precautions on your next flight. Or, you don’t have to fly at all. It’s a free country. Thankful for a judicial system that upholds our liberties and protects us from the authoritarian heavy hand of a corrupt administration and its politically charged health policies.
The shamdemic is officially over.
Ryan H. – In making the ruling, she substituted her judgment for that of Congress. The correct ruling would have been to leave the CDC mask order in place, question whether the CDC had the authority to impose it, but say it is a matter more appropriately decided by the Congress and its representatives which are closest to the people affected. For a single judge on a lower court to rule as she did is not the way a republic is supposed to be governed.
Brent – based on my skimming of the ruling, what you described is almost the opposite of what happened: she substituted Congress’s lack of authority granted, with the govt’s presumption of authority.
No matter if you personally support the mandate/masking, etc., this does support the parts of the Constitution that limits governmental authority over the decisions of individuals.
Scott B. – The fact that Congress did not specifically grant authority to the CDC to mandate masks (or any other certain actions in a public health situation) is a problem that needs to be rectified – and it should be Congress, not a judge in a lower court, to decide how to proceed. No one elected the judge, but an entire country cast ballots for the election of a president, and an entire country cast ballots to elect representatives and senators to Congress. The elected public officials should determine what powers the unelected are allowed. Sadly I doubt anyone will look back on all of the pandemic actions and do anything to make sure the mistakes of the past are not repeated.
Happy Unmasking Day Ryan H…a fine day for America indeed!
This is a day for celebration! Joe B. always with an excuse ready to go…
As many have shown, no peer reviewed prospective blinded data to support the masking or support forced immunization.
Career politicians in a corrupt Congress should never have power to strip individual liberties.
(Their approval rating confirms the constituents of the USA don’t want them making any important decisions anyway…)
If only these career bureaucrats knew the power of Kilroy’s heavy pours in fighting variants, Indiana would be a safer place.
Joe thinks the judge should have ordered the TSA to wind down mask orders at the earliest opportunity, not to exceed some minimal period of time (3-5 days).
That would have been the adult way of doing it. That’s the way a government run by adults operates, not by the intellectual children that claim they are “constitutional conservatives” or other such nonsense. Last I checked, this isn’t Lord of the Flies.
The idea that this is such an emergency that immediate lifting is the only option? If that’s the nonsense that the Federalist Society propagates maybe I should consider them a terrorist organization.
+1 Ryan H
By the way, Ryan, congrats on missing my point as it sailed over your head.
Authoritarian government? Like the type that believes in coups and throwing out election results? You’re projecting again like most Republicans do.
LOL, 1 ruling that didn’t go the Democrats way and Joe is claiming Court Packing! and Brent wants to defer to the wisdom of Congress…. This from a political party that just installed a Supreme based solely on skin color and gender.
The “snap decision” is an ongoing issue for 2 years of health officials overstepping their authority.
That said, Brent, I do like your idea. Take a vote tomorrow. No amendments or any pork, just Mask Mandate, yes or no? Make every member of Congress show their colors 6 months before the mid-terms. Pretty sure the majority of Democrats would be sick that day and have to abstain…
Chuck W. – The issue isn’t whether someone supports or opposes mask mandates. It is whether federal public health experts appointed by duly elected officials should or should not have the power to decree certain actions in response to national catastrophes such as an infectious diseases. The libertarian response that “to each his own” in such environments can have potentially tragic results that might otherwise be prevented.
I am not claiming anything. She got picked and rammed through by McConnell despite not being qualified. McConnell has packed the federal courts after blocking many of Obama’s nominees so he can spare us with his concerns.
So the next time someone tries to tell you about the dangers of Justice Jackson, just remember that the federal bench is apparently where Republicans should learn on the job.
Mizelle is far from the only one. Go look up Indianapolis’ own Sarah Martin Pitlyk. Couldn’t even get unanimous Republican support for her nomination, still got a lifetime federal appointment despite never trying a case or even taking a deposition.
Chuck, where was your outrage when Trump and Ronald Reagan pledged to nominate a woman before beginning the vetting process? Is it the fact that she’s Black that bothers you so much?
Brent – I generally agree with you, Congress has the ability to weigh-in if it so chooses. The judge only weighs in when Congress hasn’t to adjudicate what the laws currently say, in this case what ability Congress has given govt authorities in these circumstances.
Congress’s inaction in this particular area is itself a statement that there isn’t enough of an imperitive in circumstances to change the legal status quo. The judicial branch has given an opinion where that status quo is.
The branches worked as designed! Great system of governance, in stark contrast to many others over the last few years.
The Democrats are just as guilty of running to coutrs that favor them and filing lawsuits. Most times they’re filed in California or New York because they feel that they’ll get a favorable ruling. And there have been plenty of examples were it has applied nationwide.
That is one way to publicly declare you do not understand the judicial system…