Hogsett gets OK from city commission on plan to fund soccer stadium

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1. There are more streets than I have ever seen in Indianapolis that are filled with pot holes, medians that are knee high with grass that hasn’t been mowed and trash that hasn’t been picked up. Highway 37 South, leading to downtown, is a perfect example. It looks so bad and so unkempt.

   I’m not opposed to any professional sports team coming to town, but why would we focus on this, when we seemingly can’t afford to take care of the basics maintenance and repair our cities infrastructure? Or, maybe we can afford it but just don’t want to focus on these things? Certainly not a good look for anyone driving downtown to a shiny new stadium.

   Just feels like our priorities are not quite right.

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   1. 100% agree. I too am a big supporter of new and broader infrastructure such as sports stadiums, but why can’t we also fix the basic infrastructure like the banged up roads that Joe seems to not see or feel in his car when he drives to work?

   2. You’re blaming Joe Hogsett if you don’t have a basic understanding of how things work in Indiana.

      The city of Indianapolis already kicks in extra discretionary money on top of the meager amount that the state of Indiana gives Marion County out of the state gas tax, an amount far on top of the capped-at-$25 million dollars the unimplemented gas tax would allow the county.

      Ask your Marion County Republican at the Statehouse why they support a road funding formula that gives INDOT the majority of the gas tax money, and then on top of that refuses to incorporate the number of lanes into the formula which means a two lane country road gets the same funding as Keystone or Emerson. Or, as, that legislator why they don’t allow Indianapolis the flexibility to raise taxes if they choose.

      So the next time you hear someone like Aaron Freeman whine about bad roads, ask him why he’s being part of the problem instead of part of the solution. Maybe Marion County Republicans like having bad roads because it would be bad for them politically if they let Joe Hogsett solve his own problems.

   3. Those areas don’t generate enough tax income to care.

   4. Unfortunately, this city has never been good at maintaining any property, infrastructure, or facilities. Just never has it been a committed part of city management or city budget. The evidence is everywhere, and has been for decades. Dedicated funding for the maintenance of the cultural trail is the only exception, otherwise the private sector generally handles what they commit to.

   5. It is insane. I have lived in Indy most of my life and we are in for a rude awakening in the next decade. The sidewalks are crumbling and have plants growing out of them. There is trash everywhere. It is crazy how dirty this city has gotten over the last couple years.

   6. The stadium and soccer team will be privately owned. The city won’t own the team. So your complaint about why sidewalks and roads don’t get more funding has nothing to do with private investors and how they want to spend their money.

   7. Best example is to go on 38th Street from college headed west and look how the city has failed to maintain those planters and all of that area after millions was spent upgrading it into more of a boulevard status. They have been hit with cars and are completely destroyed, trees are dead or have been hit by cars and have not been replaced, there are no flowers in the planters anymore. City can’t take care of what it’s got but yet they want to keep spending on even more things to take care of

   8. The state of Indiana gives Marion County $50 million a year for roads.
      The city of Indianapolis has $325 million in the most recent budget for infrastructure.

      And, reminder, the state of Indiana controls the amount of taxation that local government can do. So even if Marion County taxpayers wanted to raise their own taxes for better roads, they’re prohibited from doing so.

   9. 37 is INDOT’s responsibility, NOT DPW’s!!!!

   10. The easy solution to bad faith whining about “potholes” any time the city decides to invest in anything besides roads is converting as many lane miles in the city core as possible to pedestrian infrastructure. This will reduce the wear and tear on asphalt by the ever-heavier SUV’s and lifted pickups that people think are appropriate for an urban environment. It would also slow traffic and save lives. I think we can all agree its a win-win. Or are none of you actually interested in fixing the root cause, and just using your keyboards to to spew the same tired grievances that you always do?

   11. Michael, when Indianapolis’ retort to declining traffic and a lack of funding is to reduce lanes, the response from the Statehouse has been to investigate how to “take over” those roads and ensure they stay nice and wide so suburban dwellers like him can drive as fast as possible into and out of downtown.

       Remember Freeman’s grandstanding and untrue statements about Washington? That’s coming to all the main roads in Marion County this legislative session. Bank on it.

2. I still don’t understand why we are starting over at the Helipad site instead of moving forward with the already-in-motion Diamond Chain location. That project was approved and already underway with the support of Indy Eleven who have been working towards building support for Soccer in our city for several years.

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   1. The heliport is a foolish foolish site

   2. Seriously? It’s because of the bodies in the former graveyards at that site and the significant expense associated with appropriate removal and reinternment. The site is simply no longer economically feasible (if it ever was). Also, Keystone owns the DC site while the new site is the preferred site of the potential new owners.

   3. Mike – the city knew the scope of what was under Diamond Chain when they attended the groundbreaking. Don’t be naive.

   4. C.D. Heather asked why not just move forward with the DC site? My answer is the truth – because the site is no longer economic (and may have never been economic). Ask yourself this: Why doesn’t Keystone move forward with the non-stadium portion of the development?

   5. Mike M. I am assuming that the that disturbed graves will still have to be addressed – regardless of which site is used for development. They will need to be removed and/or reinterned. The graves were already disturbed by the Diamond Chain building years ago. The city and/or developer will not be able to just cover these graves with dirt and move on. So I ask again – why do they want to start a new project with new demolition at the helipad site?

3. Obviously a MLS franchise would be beneficial to the city; nevertheless, it is disturbing to see a sign on Brookville Road near 465 South that reads “End of State Maintenance.” The sign isn’t truly needed-the roads speak for themselves. Let’s address
   infrastructure with the same passion as sports facilities.

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4. The street conditions in Marion County are bad. Potholes, weeds and trash everywhere even downtown. The sidewalks downtown are in disrepair especially along Meridian Street in front of the mall and along Washington Street at Meridian Street. The worst street in the City is west 38th Street. The City spent millions several years ago to refurbish the street and median. The walls and planters have been destroyed and landscaping is mostly dead. Growing up here this has been typical over the years. Very depressing especially when you go to Carmel and see their roadways and roundabouts which are immaculate.

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   1. Carmel also has a median household income that is 193% higher than the median income of the rest of the State and 210% higher than the median salary earner of Marion County. On top of that, about $50 million is transferred from Marion County to Hamilton County every year due to State formula distribution models that favor suburbs and rural areas. TL;DR – Carmel is super rich and have enacted land development policies to keep it that way. The State gives help to those who already have the means to help themselves.

   2. Carmel built a large amount of that infrastructure with bonding practices that the state of Indiana later banned, IIRC.

5. Wow, reading these comments is like reading a script from “Grumpy Old Men”. I say: “Move forward Indy!” I’m not deaf to the continuous laments about more money for streets, sidewalk, teachers, social services, the list goes on and on, but you also have to plan, build, forge ahead — do big picture stuff. As some mentioned, state funding and revenue-sharing is weighted against urban areas. Yes, let’s start with state lawmakers and the inequitable road funding formula that penalizes urban and suburban areas. Why are so many so tone-deaf to that? That is something tangible and oh so obvious.

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   1. Broadly because State lawmakers either don’t care or are incentivized to preserve the status quo. People are trying, but it falls on deaf ears in the legislature. We can’t even collect a local sales tax, which would capture lots of the convention spending from outside visitors

6. So sick of this hillbilly rural state constantly screwing the urban areas.

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