Billionaire tax meets opposition as Biden pushes for budget deal

The Democrats’ idea for a new billionaires’ tax to help pay for President Joe Biden’s social services and climate change plan quickly ran into criticism as too cumbersome with some lawmakers preferring the original plan of simply raising the top tax rates on corporations and the wealthy.

Biden said Monday he’s hopeful the talks with Congress can wrap up overall agreement on the package this week. It’s tallying at least $1.75 trillion, and could still be more. Biden said it would be “very, very positive to get it done” before he departs for two overseas global summits.

“That’s my hope,” the president said before leaving his home state of Delaware for a trip to New Jersey to highlight the child care proposals in the package and a related infrastructure measure. “With the grace of God and the goodwill of the neighbors.”

Resolving the revenue side is key as the Democrats scale back what had been a $3.5 trillion plan, insisting all the new spending will be fully paid for and not pile onto the debt. Biden vows any new taxes would hit only the wealthy, those earning more than $400,000 a year, or $450,000 for couples.

The White House had to rethink its tax strategy after one key Democrat, Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz., objected to her party’s initial proposal to raise tax rates on wealthy Americans by undoing the Trump-era tax cuts on those earning beyond $400,000. Sinema also opposed lifting the 21% corporate tax rate. With a 50-50 Senate, Biden has no votes to spare in his party.

Instead, to win over Sinema and others, the White House has been floating a new idea of taxing the assets of billionaires and another that would require corporations to pay a 15% minimum tax, regardless of if they show any profits. Those both appear to be gaining traction with another pivotal Democrat, Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., who told reporters he supported new ways to ensure the wealthy to pay their “fair share.”

Democrats on the Senate Finance Committee, led by Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon, are prepared to roll out the tax revenue plan in a matter of days. It is likely to include other revenue-raising tax measures, including a plan to beef up the IRS to go after tax scofflaws.

“Here’s the heart of it: Americans read over the last few months that billionaires were paying little or no taxes for years on end,” Wyden said at the Capitol.

The billionaires’ tax is being modeled on a 2019 bill from Wyden to treat assets as income. Another idea, up to a 3% ultra-rich surtax, has been proposed by Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass.

Under Wyden’s emerging plan, the billionaires’ tax would hit the wealthiest of Americans, fewer than 1,000 people. It would require those with assets of more than $1 billion, or three-years consecutive income of $100 million, to pay taxes on the gains of stocks and other tradeable assets, rather than waiting until holdings are sold.

A similar billionaire’s tax would be applied to non-tradeable assets, including real estate, but it would be deferred with the tax not assessed until the asset was sold.

Overall, the billionaires’ tax rate has not been set, but it is expected to be at least the 20% capital gains rate. Democrats have said it could raise $200 billion in revenue that could help fund Biden’s package over 10 years.

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell called it a “hare-brained scheme” and warned of revenue drying up during downturns. Some Republicans indicated such a tax plan could be challenged in court.

But key fellow Democrats are also raising concerns, saying the idea of simply undoing the 2017 tax cuts by hiking top rates was more straightforward and transparent.

Under the House’s bill from the Ways and Means Committee, the top individual income tax rate would rise from 37% to 39.6%, on those earning more than $400,000, or $450,000 for couples. The corporate rate would increase from 21% to 26.5%. The bill also proposed a 3% surtax on wealthier Americans with adjusted income beyond $5 million a year.

The panel’s chairman, Rep. Richard Neal, D-N.J., said he told Wyden in a discussion Monday that the implementation of the senator’s proposed billionaire’s plan is “a bit more challenging.”

Neal suggested that the House’s proposal was off the table despite Sinema’s objections. In fact, he said, “our plan looks better every day.”

Once Democrats agree to the tax proposals, they can assess how much is funding available for Biden’s overall package to expand health care, child care and other climate change programs.

Democrats were hoping Biden could cite major accomplishments to world leaders later this week. They are also facing an Oct. 31 deadline to pass a related $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package of roads, broadband and other public works before routine federal transportation funds expire.

“We need to get this done,” Biden said in remarks at a New Jersey transit center.

After months of start-and-stop negotiations, Biden’s overall package is now being eyed as at least $1.75 trillion. But it could still climb considerably higher, according to a second person who insisted on anonymity to discuss the private talks.

Biden huddled with the conservative West Virginia Democrat Manchin and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer at the president’s Delaware home on Sunday as they work on resolving the disputes between centrists and progressives that have stalled the bill.

Disputes remain over far-reaching investments, including plans to expand Medicare coverage with dental, vision and hearing aid benefits for seniors; child care assistance; free pre-kindergarten; and a new program of four-weeks paid family leave.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she expected an agreement by week’s end, paving the way for a House vote on the $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill. The Senate had approved that over the summer, but the measure stalled during deliberations on the broader Biden bill.

But Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., the chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus whose support will be crucial for both bills, said lawmakers want more than just a framework for Biden’s plan before they give their votes for the smaller infrastructure package.

“We want the whole bill,” Jayapal told The Associated Press. “We want to vote on both bills at the same time.”

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9 thoughts on “Billionaire tax meets opposition as Biden pushes for budget deal

  1. Im not part of the 1% as they like to call it. A tax on value is the most ludicrous idea ever. You think IRS agents are stuck in the mud now. Wait until they have to agree on the value of assets of someone who has assets on many many fronts and there are many different ways to value assets, especially assets that don’t trade often. This is just another Dem political stunt to act like the rich aren’t “paying their fair share”. Also whose foundations do you think supports untold charitable organizations with millions upon millions of dollars of support.

    1. Agree Larry and that will never fly. No way to formulate the value of real estate, stocks, bonds, and other assets. Plus it’s way to time consuming. I hope they can agree to tax the corps a little more (3%+), but the companies will just dodge it regardless like history has proven time and time again. I’m not mad but that’s just the reality.

    2. Are we claiming that “trickle down charitable giving” is now a thing?

      Because I know the data on trickle down economics … shows it simply doesn’t work.

    3. Jaron, that’s why this minimum corporate tax interests me the most because your right that the bigger the company or individual the less tax they pay because of the army of people hired to get that tax down to zero. If theirs a no escape minimum then that should help, right? Of course that will get passed on to me the consumer and I’ll end up paying their 15% obligation anyway lol.

  2. BTW, Larry I agree with you that any kind of value tax will be too complex and probably not fair. Your friends will get taxed far less than your enemies. The last thing we need in this polarized society are taxes that are subjective because we already leave too many loopholes for the wealthy. Simplify the tax code please don’t make it even more complex.

  3. Just do away with all the deductions and exemptions. No deductions, no tax credits, no loopholes, no nothing – pay tax at whatever rate it’s set at and that’s all. Nothing else. Period. Yeah, too simple..

  4. It takes 2,000 billions of dollars to get 2 trillion dollars. There is no way there are that many billionaires. It is going to come from the middle class one way or another for Biden to funnel $2,000,000,000,000 into the Washington DC cesspool. It is either tax the middle class hard or print inflation, or both. Either way, the middle class loses. And just to control them if they get rowdy, make the banks report all money transactions to the government. This sounds too Orwellian to the “land of the free”!

    1. Well, you’re employing [at least] a *little* sophistry. You’re asserting for $2,000B to get $2T by assuming these FCB (Fat Cat Billionaires) are worth merely $1B each. That’s convenient. The 400 richest Americans are worth $3.2T (or ca. $8B each) and allowing for $1B each for the remaining 324 FCBs, $3,524,000,000,000 (probably more, however, we don’t need to itemize *every* billionaire). Elon Musk made $140B last year. (For those keeping score at home, that’s $139B you’re overlooking) Bezos made $72B last year (that’s another $71B you’ve omitted).
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      I’m guessing you didn’t scrutinize Trump’s tax savings for his fellow FCBs because he has an (R) next to his name and Biden has a (D). Did you point out, “Economists calculate richest 400 families in US paid an average tax rate of 23% while the bottom half of households paid a rate of 24.2%” back when it happened? (I’m guessing not.) Trump made it seem as though it was a tax cut for everyone. I think Biden is proposing to simply back out Trumpty Dumpty’s (funny book trilogy) tax break, plus…
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      It’s not just billionaires who are supposed to see a tax increase – I think it’s everyone who is making tens of millions/year who will see a sizable increase.
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      Now, if you were to try to sound sympathetic towards the FCBs, particularly Zuckerberg, you could point out that he’s had a “woe is me” story he circulates periodically about how he can’t do benevolent & charitable things with his riches because it would mean he’d have to cash in some of his Meta/Facebook stock and that could endanger his benevolent dictator status because people could buy the stock he ca$he$ in and he would no longer have controlling interest in Facebook.

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