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During this pandemic, for safety reasons, anyone who wants to vote mail in should have that option.
They do.
Absentee.
Of course they check the validity of these so if you live somewhere else don’t bother attempting to vote (multiple times)
If you can go out to the grocery, you can go to the polls.
And before you start talking about needing an ID being a deterrent to voting- I personally think if you don’t have an ID- this means you don’t drive, drink alcohol, see rates R movies, smoke or fly on a plane or any of the thousands of other things that require an ID, so therefore you really dont participate in society and dont deserve to vote.
So if I have COVID-19, I should go stand in line with others to vote? Makes total sense.
System can handle (kind of) the absentee system. Still issues every year….but all in all pretty good. System not set up for 10 to 20 to 100 times the traffic. No ID check. Disaster in waiting x 1,000 all over the country.
Show up and vote in person…its your Civic Duty!
The IBJ really missed the point on this one. Anyone who thinks that this will not allow voter fraud on a massive scale is very naive. It is not that hard during a 12 hour day to cast a vote. I do not think there would be anything wrong with making it a holiday or extending hours as a compromise, but it is not really needed and the current method is no that difficult. Many people exaggerate the effort needed as if it were some type of Olympic event. Let’s be honest: people do what they WANT to do.
There is little to no evidence to support your assertion of large-scale fraud and a mountain of evidence refuting it.
For all those who say that voter ID isn’t a big deal, then I’m sure you’d be OK with requiring masks to cast a vote in person this year, right?
The other factor not discussed is how many polling places will be available on Election Day. Many end up being schools that likely won’t be able to accept the general public during a pandemic on a school day. Throw in the number of poll workers who can’t or won’t take the risk of contracting the virus …
This ends up being an issue in big cities, which trend Democratic, so it’s little wonder that the Republican state government cares to help Democrats vote.
A quick move to vote centers open for the two weeks before Election Day would help greatly in this regard. Most counties already have vote centers, but Marion County Republicans would likely drag their feet on further spread as it’s really their best chance to influence who wins races like the 5th District. (Make it hard for the Democrats in Marion County to vote, make it easy for the Republicans in Hamilton County to vote.)
Finally, for those who say there’s no risk … studies say otherwise. Only difference between here and Wisconsin would be masks, which are “required” here.
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Study co-authored by Ball State professors finds link between in-person voting and spread of COVID-19 in Wisconsin
“significant association between in-person voting and the spread of COVID-19 two to three weeks after the April primary in Wisconsin. Their research also suggests in-person voting was related to about 700 more COVID-19 cases in the state during the weeks following the election.”
https://fox59.com/news/coronavirus/study-co-authored-by-ball-state-professors-finds-link-between-in-person-voting-and-spread-of-covid-19-in-wisconsin/
If people can wait in line at Costco, Kroger, and Walmart they can show up to vote just like every other year. If people can be crammed into airplanes with masks on – clearly less than 1 ft from each other – they can show up to vote. If the argument is about “safety”, it is a false argument.
However, does that mean that people shouldn’t be allowed to vote through mail-in or electronic voting? of course they should. In a modern society that seems reasonable that this should be an option if for no other reason that pure convenience. Things are done electronically all of the time. However, the majority of Americans have little faith in the accuracy of electronic voting, especially with constant examples of fraud or inaccurate counting. It is rampant with literally hundreds of examples, including this year in primaries. It is not up for debate, both sides have acknowledged it.
This isn’t a Republican vs Democrat thing, nor is it a safety issue, it is simply the ability to participate in our most fundamental right as Americans – the ability to legally vote and have that vote accurately counted. Let the chips fall where they may. This isn’t a partisan issue. Both sides accuse the other of trying to “steal” elections and the American people are sick of it. There is near ZERO faith in our voting process, especially in mail-in counting. So please stop with the soapbox of saying that “in a pandemic” it is essential. It’s not. We know it. You know it. And until you can prove that mail-in and electronic voting is bulletproof, you will NOT get mass buy in. Period.
Most all of the voting machines approved after the 2000 fiasco were insecure and should have never been purchased. They were a waste of tax dollars.
Voting should require a paper ballot. Electronic voting systems used to count ballots (if governments choose to use them) should be open source so everyone can see how they work. But it feels like the best solution is to have regular people count ballots in the open.
And if the election dates need to be changed to give governments more time to count the votes, so be it.
We all know that voting remotely is the right thing to do during a pandemic. The likelihood of spreading a highly infectious and deadly virus is exponentially higher than the likelihood of someone attempting the federal crime of voting fraudulently.
Also, pretending that the one’s right to vote somehow outweighs the right to stay alive is a bridge way, way too far, even if you are desperately worried that your preferred candidate (or political party) might not come out on top. You have allowed yourself to be tricked by embarrassingly weak arguments.
What Michael B said!
In an ideal world, voting my mail would be great. However, those who really want this also don’t want voter IDs. What about signatures? Counting? I don’t think it is possible to prevent all the fraud made possible by mail-in voting. It isn’t that simple to simply say it’s the right thing to do. It would be right if not fraught with wrongs made possible by lack of checks. Biden has been lucky he does not need to speak without a script, and now just mail all a ballot and use the honor system. Read the WSJ instead of IBJ for the best information and insights.
Absentee or mail-in, as vote-by-mail by anyone at all – real voters?