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I would love to see high level soccer here but this city ranks almost last in NBA attendance, at what most experts agree is the best arena in the league. So how will it fill a 20,000 seat stadium for second-tier soccer when the eleven’s fans can’t come close to selling out Carroll stadium. That 7,000 figure is preposterous, as anyone whose attended their games knows. Perhaps the figure is padded by giveaways – we paid five bucks from a scalper at our last game. And building lux condos should not qualify this guy for tax giveaways, not when he’s giving away so much to far right political causes. Wait. Maybe that explains the legislative handout.
Indy has tried to sell itself as the amateur sports capital of the world and for the most part, made good on it. I feel that this is a project Indy almost have no choice but to do and over time, im certain it will pay for itself. I keep saying it, if Indy wants to lead the pack when it comes to its peer cities, we have to build BIGGER, BOLDER and OFTEN, or Indy will lose ground to Nashville, Columbus, Louisville, Kansas City, St Louise ect. Indy has put itself in a position where it has to keep up, or lead the competition but God forbid get out all together.
Dear God you have no clue what you’re talking about.
Everything in life is a risk, from marriage to starting a business. The idea is that you succeed and not fail when taking these risk of course. The worse thing Indy could do, is not take the risk. imagine how much that would cost if the city didn’t take the risk to build anything like this in the city? The article mentions Heywood Sanders, an economics professor in Texas. He has doubted a lot of projects in Indy and sites that because there’s already soccer stadiums in other Midwest cities too close to Indy, that could be an issue, as well as Indy Eleven would have a hard time selling out the place. I honestly don’t think the fans in Cincinnati, Columbus, Louisville ect would effect what’s going on here in Indy.
Zimbalist gets it – this project will attract businesses from other areas of the City and State and divert those state and local tax dollars to fund the stadium/development. I don’t think city leaders and legislators understand this.
My son, who is a student at the University of Cincinnati, just last week, attended a soccer match between FC Cincinnati and Columbus Crew. He paid $90 for a ticket and it was a sellout with a crowd of 25,000+. I think Odzemir’s plan is to build a stadium similar to TQL in Cincinnati or the one in Columbus, Ohio. If that happens, I think Indy will get an MLS franchise. In fact, I think it’s his plan and I believe it’ll add to the city’s reputation for hosting amateur and professional sporting events.
This exactly. You CAN’T COMPARE Carroll Stadium to what this new facility could inspire and bring to the city. The location is picture perfect, parking is good, and the growth will come once the fan base grows. Sure it takes time but a new stadium could explode the fan base. Soccer matches are quite fun.
So what! Based upon son’s experience and your belief that a new stadium gets Indy an MLS team, it’s appropriate to divert tax dollars to fund a new stadium that will further enrich one businessman? That’s the logic! What happens if MLS doesn’t expand? Meanwhile, the City scrambles to fund basic human services as tax dollars become even more scarce. Where does it stop?
I won’t be going, despite being a near-lifelong soccer fan – I used to watch men’s soccer with rabbit ears on WSNS (Chicago). I used to watch men’s soccer at all levels until men started a new practice — it was prevalent once someone graduated from college: “flopping” – I find the practice disturbing – those who watch NBA basketball would find it just as bad if it were to start being common practice. As the women’s teams (of any level) seem immune to the practice, I find their version of the sport quite enjoyable. With the men’s WC coming up before long, it would be a good time for the refs to crack down on the flopping: 1st violation (for a team): direct kick; 2) 2nd violation: yellow card; 3) 3rd violation: PK. 4) PK + ejection from the current match and benched for the subsequent match. I think one or two matches would be enough to break the habit for all men’s teams at all levels although FIFA lacks the stones to fix the the problem – they think it’s a pleasurable addition to the game making it as much fun to watch as “pro” wrestling. And if the refs won’t call penalties for flopping…
They have taken some steps to address the problem in the PL (although VAR has created other issues).
That said, this has nothing to do with the potential build of the stadium.
Not real confident that this will materialize, its taken the Keystone developer several years to complete the Intercontinental Hotel off the circle, which hasn’t had any construction activity for over a year.
Bread and Circuses! Who needs roads?
This is purely about getting tax payers to give Ersol another handout. Plus he will be the builder with no reason to be competitive because he will be the monopoly. Lets say in the stadium alone he charged a 20 percent building management fee. What incentive would he have to keep costs low? Oh by the way if he is in total.control why not get some kickbacks along the way. This is what is happening and this is why he is in every politicians pockets.
If he is so sure this will work go private like some of the other stadiums have done. He is a con artist. This if it got off the ground will be a huge flop.with the city on the hook. I bet you he wouldn’t want to compete in an open bidding process. Why cant people see this.
Okay so the way this works is Ersol can charge a build fee plus inflate costs and get kickbacks out the ying yang. The build costs should be an open bid process since public money and backing is being used. Hopefully someone in power can see this and say something. Only problem.is they are all.paid off.