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Maybe a multi-use concept similar to this is needed for Circle Centre. It’s such a shame to see all the empty storefronts.
That has to be a long-term plan, right? It makes too much sense not to work on. The mall is dead
Quite dead and very much a disappointment for a group that manages malls throughout the nation — yet that which should be a hometown gem is subpar.
But the issues are much deeper: nearby population demographic vis-a-vis Hamilton County in particular. The lack of foresight in the past to improve city services and schools to maintain individuals and families of income levels that would allow such a mall to remain viable is indisputable. Why is it that in cities of once comparable central city urbanization — Denver, Columbus, Louisville, Minneapolis — the share of viable, attractive urban neighborhoods is significantly higher as is income and tax base. And, correspondingly, downtowns are more vibrant. Downtown Indy is attractive enough, but lacks vitality and energy. More focus should be on residents and positive internal growth — not only conventions and the much anticipated $$$ spent by visitors. Yes, that revenue is vital and key, but the a long-term sustainable plan for residents is equally important.
Agreed. I whole heartedly agree with Derek C’s assessment-caveat being louisville being in better shape than indy which is not case, though those other cities are for those reasons listed. Speaking of Denver, Simon actually owns a mall that was once enormous and bustling but then with more suburban malls having popped up, went into a decline with numerous empty store fronts (not unlike lafayette sq or circle center). What Simon did there brought that mall back to life- converting it into an indoor outlet mall with high end retailers included. Think keystone in outlet form or like fashion outlets of chicago. This could certainly be helpful for circle centre for a number of reasons. One is that the only outlet mall in any close proximity is Edinburgh, which is subpar to average compared to other outlet malls. Secondly, this provides a way to gather the northern tax base back into the area because of closer proximity to downtown as compared to further south in Edinburgh. The stores could appeal to the population in downtown which I’d argue as a downtown resident is at its highest (from a tax base in total of surrounding downtown neighborhoods) since circle centre’s debut in mid 90s. Many people downtown would love to have urban shopping available, though stores that are run of mill in any basic mall (and of course empty store fronts, but this was issue even prior to empty store fronts) is not going to do this. Lastly, with ppl in town for conventions, events, whatever- this would have a desired effect on enthusiasm to spend money. People don’t care to be going shopping at American eagle (though this even closed) or aeropostale and the likes but stores that aren’t as familiar/outlets could be a much different story. What is more infuriating is that Simon’s headquarters is a block away from circle centre yet it has been dying without much of a concern seemingly given. Not saying that I think all of circle centre should be retail as do agree with multi use model, though feel retail in indys core has a higher capacity to sustain the retail than many believe if done correctly. Shoot, even salt lake city and Anchorage Alaskas downtowns feature high end shopping centers, why not indy. Furthermore, unlike many other cities near its size, indy is BARE within 465 loop which shows how much opportunity there is for shopping of some sort in the core.
Don’t hold your breath on this one!
I’ve seen the presentation for this project. If successful it will not only be a place that people from central Indiana will want to shop, but a strong tourist destination.
Now, about the big Union Station development many years ago…
Add Plenty housing!!!!! Hotels!! And plenty mixed use spaces!!! And Entertainment!!!!! That’s a lot of area to take advantage of!!! Do it Right!!!and plenty $$$$ will come!! I’m watching you 👀
This type of situation could be the future for many other areas around the city and State!!!!! Put Indiana!! First!!!!!!! Go Big and reap Big!!!!!!
Yawn
“The lack of foresight in the past to improve city services and schools to maintain individuals and families of income levels that would allow such a mall to remain viable is indisputable.” I find this statement refreshing and very interesting. Please share with us all the city services that should be improved and what improvements to schools the city should make. I for one cannot wait for the results and attendant increase in ISTEP scores which will be experienced in the Lawrence Township schools now that $200,000,000 of Lawrence township voted for taxpayer money is being deployed.