TWG’s ambitious Old City Hall proposal chosen over several other bids

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22 thoughts on “TWG’s ambitious Old City Hall proposal chosen over several other bids

    1. I suspect that the lack of financing specifics along with a vague, will rehab the old city hall, sunk that bid.

    1. C.D.

      Agreed!! We need to be bold and grow our skyline.

      Next, the city should encourage Simmons to build one massive signature
      building on south Pennsylvania instead of the proposed two smaller ones.

    2. Keith B., the two towers planned for South Pennsylvania across from Gainbridge Fieldhouse qualify as “high rises” (one is only 6 stories shorter that the TWG City Hall tower). The 26-story structure would be built directly south, along Pennsylvania Street, with 254 apartments, nearly 4,800 square feet of retail space and a 700-space parking garage. The 16-story tower proposed for the southwest corner of Georgia and Pennsylvania streets would have 225 hotel rooms and nearly 18,000 square feet of retail space.

  1. I always wished that the Pan Am/ Hilton Hotel was one massive tower that included the other 600 room hotel that will be possibly built in the future after the 800 room one is built. Imagine a tower that tall with 1400 rooms instead of two smaller towers.Come on Indy here is your chance to shine!

    1. Ron D.

      + 1

      I never understood why they didn’t develop that into a single skyscraper.
      Then the land that the second hotel is to be built upon could be developed into
      an artistic architecturally beautiful open space park.

  2. Great article.

    Comparing the expected costs in each proposal….Again….you have to wonder how TWG thinks $140 mil gets this done?

    F&C 36 story tower $250 mil? Buckingham 15 story tower $217 mil?

    Something isn’t adding up. Hope we don’t end up with a sized down version when they realize costs are much higher than expected.

    1. No doubt that will happen. With construction costs still heavily impacted by inflation, more than likely to never be lower, they’ll be cutting floors real quick because you can’t save dollars in trying to cut the basic quality necessary for doing high-rise construction.

    2. No doubt that will happen. With construction costs still heavily impacted by inflation, more than likely to never be lower, they’ll be cutting floors real quick because you can’t save dollars in trying to cut the basic quality necessary for doing high-rise construction. Best be checking the TWG numbers.

  3. The Flaherty&Collins design would have been just as interesting as the one selected. Im just thrilled to see all the development planned for downtown and the ones that have actually broken ground already. Im almost certain that other developers in state and out will be paying attention to the momentum in Indy and someone will try to out do and shine all previous developments. This is exactly how it all starts. Wouldn’t surprise me to hear within the next 5yrs or so that Indy will get its first 50 story mix use skyscraper. There’s been mention of a World Trade Center tower. I could see putting everything under one roof for that project and it easily reaching 50-60 stories if office,confrence space and hotel for foreign dignitaries to stay at are added. Indy needs one true signature modern designed high rise.

    1. Kevin P.

      Agreed, enthusiasm and optimism breed enthusiasm & optimistism.

      Building cranes downtown indicate growth, progress, optimism, and pride.

  4. Has anyone noticed the building boom in Austin, TX?
    There are a least 10 residential/hotel/office towers currently under construction that are over 500 feet and one that is 1,021 feet tall. Here is a list of the top 10 towers being built by number of floors and the height:
    Floors Height
    74 1021 Residential/Hotel/Office
    66 875 Residential/Office
    46 710 Office
    58 675 Residential/Office
    55 655 Residential/Office
    50 633 Residential Office
    52 594 Residential
    48 567 Residential
    45 513 Residential
    42 500 Residential

    1. Additionally, Austin has:

      One additional building under construction between the proposed City Hall height and 499 feet.
      Five additional buildings under construction between 300 feet and the proposed City Hall tower height.

      And Austin also has the following buildings 500 feet+ approved or proposed:

      Floors Height Status Use
      55 707 Proposed Office & Residential
      54 691 Proposed Office & Residential
      57 684 Proposed Residential
      47 628 Approved Office & Residential
      43 616 Approved Office
      53 610 Proposed Residential
      42 540 Proposed Office & Residential
      44 500 Proposed Residential

      Eight additional proposed buildings between the proposed City Hall height and 499 feet.
      Five additional proposed buildings between 300 feet and the proposed City Hall tower height.

      Nashville building projects.

      Under construction:

      Floors Height Status Use
      60 750 Under construction Residential
      34 524 Under Construction Office

      Three additional under construction buildings between the proposed City Hall height and 499 feet.
      Three additional under construction buildings between 300 feet and the proposed City Hall tower height.

      Buildings 500 feet+ approved or proposed:

      Floors Height Status Use
      43 620 Approved, Stalled Office
      45 610 Approved Residential
      49 574 Proposed Mixed-use
      46 569 Approved, Stalled Hotel
      47 525 Proposed Residential
      49 512 Proposed Mixed-use
      45 500 Proposed Residential

      Eight additional proposed buildings between the proposed City Hall height and 499 feet.
      28 additional proposed buildings between 300 feet and the proposed City Hall tower height.

      Indianapolis:

      0 under construction or proposed over 500 feet.
      Two under construction (468′ and 350′).
      Two proposed over 300 feet.

  5. Looks like Indy needs to step up and become more bold in constructing High-rise Residential towers before they run out of space downtown building 5 story apartment everywhere. I believe more people prefer to live higher up with fantastic views of the surrounding landscape. Its pretty obvious that this true by looking at what’s going on with the other cities that are booming with their construction.

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