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How about The Liberals recognize what has happened to our election process. The plain as day cheating and fraud that is being reported everywhere makes The Great United States of America no better than a third world country.
+1
THANK YOU JEFFREY R.
Spot freakin’ on!!
EVERYONE should be beyond deeply troubled by this election & scandal. We have been manipulated as a society by OUR OWN government agencies!
Get “woke” to the corruption because it will infect ALL of us worse than the virus, it IS the virus.
BINGO!
Totally agree with Jeffrey R and John B! It will be easier to “get past” the election when we can determine a winner who was elected FAIRLY. It’s unconscionable how much obvious cheating was going on! I can accept Joe Biden IF he was elected fair and square, but for now this looks like a fraud and an empty victory. Sorry libs!
I agree with your opinions and we should always strive for compromise. I am also sorry that you felt like the last four years were horrible for you. We are not racists or unwelcoming even though the media has portrayed us that way. We believe in a country of laws where the Constitution and Bill of Rights are the foundation and not just ideas that have no place in America today. Donald Trump was a very polarizing figure and I had to learn to love his actions over his words. Yes words matter and I understand your frustration with him, but we elected a non Washington politician on purpose. I still think most national politicians are corrupt and I was happy to have an outsider. Your right at this point my side can prepare for the midterms. By then President elect Biden, who by in large didn’t have to talk about what he would do after he was elected, will now have to show his hand. I think it’s going to be much farther left than what people thought and the average American who doesn’t live on the east or west coasts isn’t going to like it. The other problem with your plea Mr. Siddiqui is that almost half of America feels like we no longer have a voice or say in our lives. Between big tech that now controls the narrative and the majority of the mainstream media that has decided they will simply work for the Democratic party we have very little trust in this new system. Add to that the endless harassments of the current President and his policies does not put us in a conciliatory mood. Joe Biden has possibly committed criminal acts with his son and brother, but that’s never going to see the light of day or receive any media attention, Could you imagine if you had substituted the Trump family into that situation. Congratulations on your victories and hopefully our worst fears of a far left wave and all of their plans for the rest of us will not come to pass, but at this point I fear the worst.
The writer has ignored a big factor in Trump’s rise, and the rise of divisiveness. Most American’s aren’t on the same page when it come to what to believe and where to get trustworthy information. Read Scott Adman’s 2017 book, “Win Bigly, Persuasion in a world where facts don’t Matter” and you start to get a clue that the basic facts that American’s rely on to form public and political opinions are not even the same. The rise of the right wing media machines combined with the amplification effects of social media, along with the constantly repeated message that all main stream media is “Fake News”, as well as Republican politicians that are willing to exploit all of these flawed and unscrupulous platforms, leaves about half of America with a distorted and fictional view of America.
The divide is really between the reality base community and everyone else that is trying to manipulate and propagandize voters for power, money, and personal gain.
If you don’t believe the divide is between the reality based community and the fictional propaganda, take a look at the previous comments and try to rationalize the anger and disenfranchisement expressed in the comments in light of the current situation.
So if we would just embrace your truth and sources of information then we could all think as your half does and that’s the only way to think and feel. We appear to be a left and right country with no more center. I used to be a center right person, but would certainly be labeled right wing now. The current climate and divide between the two sides is staggering and understand everything you say is wrong with my information sources I say ditto for yours. This is only going to get worse and not better. I really hope for America’s sake their are always opposing views. Long live divided government and people or were doomed as a democracy!
+1 Dan.
I mean, if you think there was fraud in the election that changed the outcome, you’re wrong. There’s no “both sides” or “common ground” about it. A reminder, Trump wouldn’t accept the results of an election *he won* in 2016 … and convened a committee to look into the fraud. They quietly disbanded … without finding any.
Jeff, the problem is, the majority of the news that “the right” gets is either lies or something taken out of context. When I look at what’s on the front page of Fox News, it’s pretty obvious that much of it’s not news, it’s just the usual tropes to make people angry and keep watching.
That people are angry at Fox News for reporting the simple truth that Biden won the election and have in response, sworn off Fox for only news sources that tell them what they want to hear (more lies), tells you what you need to know. If it’s not already, the GOP isn’t a political party, it’s a cult.
Jeff A,
The right wing media and politicians has spent years cultivating a very clever trap, and I am sure it is hard to see how much manipulation is happening especially if you are caught in the trap.
I am sure there are sources out there on the right that try to stay factual, but they don’t get many clicks, or views, because most media companies are counting on an emotional response to get people coming back for more. Even FOX was suddenly shunned when they shifted to a more reality based position on the election.
Try reading the book I suggested. You can get it free from most libraries. Scott Adams starts out saying he never votes (I don’t agree with that), but I believe he is coming from an apolitical point of view.
Also, I am not saying everything that comes out of the right wing media machine is un-true, but there is enough distortion to make people angry, upset and angry and upset people are motivated to go out and vote even it is against their own best interests or the interests of the country.
Think about why every media company that you used to be able to trust is now part of the “main stream media” and can’t be trusted. If you were a kid, and your big brother told you a big lie that could be easily fact checked with mom and dad, he would most likely also tell you that mom and dad can’t be trusted (they are “Fake News”).
Fast forward to 2020, and now you have the head Big Brother (Trump) telling you a lie (“The election is Fraudulent”, “The virus is a Hoax”, etc…) and at the same time anybody that contradicts him is “Fake News”. At the same time, right wing elements in social media back this up, so do right wing media, and other Republican politicians stand quietly by. It is very easy to believe everything that you used to trust is now fake news, and the lie is the truth.
People are not so much divided on ideology as much as who we choose to believe.
Joe B, If you don’t think there was fraud in the election, you need to quit watching CNN and MSNBC 24/7/365. Just coincidence that The only places Biden did exceptional were the key counties in the swing states? In the middle of the night?? Wake up man! He didn’t even match Hillary in votes in the other big cities that WERE NOT in swing states!! Don’t you think it odd that Democrats and liberals are philosophically government oversight fanatics, government over-regulation wonks on virtually everything, and government control proponents on our very lives-AKA SHUTDOWNS!!. On everything EXCEPT voting oversight and voting fraud prevention?? LMAO!! Not to mention 81 million votes-20% MORE votes than Obama at the peak of his popularity-for a guy who couldn’t get more than 10 people to fill his 20 crop circles at one of his rallies?? Again-WAKE UP!!
And don’t talk about the historically disenfranchised when Democrats are attempting to disenfranchise 75 million LEGAL voters!!
Get a clue!!
I don’t watch any of those networks. Spare me the conspiracy nonsense that drives the Republican Party and encourages people to donate to Trump. If there was fraud, all of these court cases wouldn’t have been sent out of the courtroom on their ear.
Bottom line – despite his numerous flaws, Trump would have won the election with any sort of minimally competence response to the coronavirus. He failed and lost the election.
If you want someone to blame for losing the election, start with Trump. I know it’s generally his move to take all the credit for himself and give the blame to other things or people … but when I grew up Republican, it was the party of personal responsibility. If credit starts at the top, so should blame.
‘Good to see so many responders coming down hard on Siddiqui. He deserves it. Jeffery R. and John B. hit the nail on the head in the first two comments; everyone should be concerned about the obvious targeted fraud in specific locales and precincts. If a person subscribes to the theory that “the end justifies the means” so long as it deposes Trump (and be honest, many lefties do, although not all), they don’t deserve to live in The United States of America.
I don’t believe in compromise and giving Trump supporters time, either. Here’s the reality – their right-wing echo chamber has their minds full of lies and disinformation. There was not fraud to the extend that they’re being told. What’s fraud has been uncovered will be prosecuted to the full extend of the law, but it’s clearly not enough to change the result of the election. If there was, the courts would have done something about it. That Trump has lost every court case should tell you what nonsense is being peddled.
If a person subscribes to the theory that the result of a democratically held election should be thrown out so that “their guy” wins, they don’t believe in the United States of America any longer.
It’s time to call the last month what it is – a badly attempted coup, which is still an attempted coup. The silence of Republicans is telling and tells you that they don’t believe in the United States of America, and they don’t believe in facts any longer.
Its amazing with all the blatant election fraud and cheating absolutely nothing has been or can be proven in a court of law. Just because you believe it or totally buy into the propaganda doesn’t make it true. Even Rush Limbaugh says to either prove it or stop sounding and looking like lunatics. In other words, put up or shut up.
Greg – the lunatics are running the Republican Party now. This is the Trumpublican Party. You’re either all the way in or you’re out. You can’t stay and be a “good Republican” and try to change it from the inside. All Trump, all the time, all the way down.
https://thebulwark.com/trumpism-triumphant/