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Cool, I guess. Now fix your broken zoning ordinance and interpret it consistently while you’re at it.
Amen.
First, since when does Indy have a ‘City Architect’? Never heard of that position here before!?
The concept of this sounds interesting and possibly great, if it really solves our problems. It certainly cuts out our local real architecture community and involvement. Who provides the utility and drainage designs and calculations?
Has the Houston group lived through our freeze-thaw winter cycles?
The proof will be in the pudding once these structures are built. I can only guess the actual permitting process will not really streamline the process, but provide more red tape and more staff, and cost the taxpayers more in the long run.
I think about eight years. Both of them have been completely worthless.
I love that two right-wingers who don’t understand how their local government functions have concluded an entire person’s job as “worthless,” while also getting the responsibilities of said role completely wrong. Classic Republican.
Hmmm. I’ve actually been at the table with both of them for projects. How many projects have you built Mr. Initials?
Several! Including major projects worth tens of millions of dollars. Thanks 🙂
Kevin, drainage permits (and therefore drainage calcs) are no longer required if the disturbed area is less than an acre. That describes virtually every residential lot sold by the City Land Bank.
AR…Murray’s question stands: have you ever actually dealt with the City Architect/staff?
I have! Many times over the course of several years.
You guys aren’t going to get a “gotcha.” lol
The beauty of an anonymous comment section is you can be anything you want to be. Right A.R,?
You can gripe about it all you want, but that’s the truth. I work for a consultant and we design and build a lot of infrastructure and brick-and-mortar structures. All of which require consultation with the City Architect. Prior to my job as a consultant, I actually worked within DMD and directly with the City Architect on multiple projects.
Knowing both of our historical City Architects personally, and my working history with developers on both the public and private side, my guess is that you proposed something awful and got pushback on it, requiring you to actually spend a little money so that things didn’t look like crap or to keep the structure within code.
I’ve seen the really awful garbage that unsupervised developers come up with.
Now I know you’re full of it.
Good stuff. We need infill. A lot of it.
For all of the skeptics, the city did something similar in 2000 when Fall Creek Place came out of the ground. The developer that helped facilitate that project came up with a catalog of maybe three or four pre-approved designs from three or four pre-approved builders resulting in maybe a dozen designs to pick from. This went a long way to keeping the costs down, since one of the city’s goal was to create affordable housing opportunities.
There was still the option to hire an architect and do custom designs, which a few people did. I was on the board of the KPADC and a member of the citi’s Fall Creek Place Steering Committee. It is still satisfying to drive through the neighborhood and see the continued development creep east toward the Monon Trail.
Over a year before the program rolls out… that’s the city saying that so safe to say it will be closer to two years. That’s government for you.