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Wait a minute. A group that advocates the separation of Church and Government wants the Government to decide who the Church can hire? That ladies and gentlemen can only be a real thing in America 2022. (No offense if you identify as a furry or widget. It’s just a phrase.)
Should a church be able to decide that every single employee, down to the janitor, is a minister and should be held accountable to morals clauses as part of their employment?
If so, should they also be able to accept taxpayer dollars via vouchers for schools they run?
Seems to me that answered yes to both questions is rather tricky… especially when the only part of that morals clause enforced is around same sex relationships and not other parts of Catholic doctrine. I mean, should they be able to make mandatory that they take monthly blood work from female employees … and fire any who are taking birth control? Should any male teacher who has had a vasectomy also be fired?
Pardon the pun, but “Amen”, Joe B.
Well isn’t that ironic… claiming they want to provide “…education rooted in the dignity of every human person” while in the middle of a lawsuit where they’re being accused of discrimination…
If you don’t agree with the church’s teachings, why would you want to work there unless your true intent was to subvert the church? Vegans don’t go to work at butcher shops. Environmentalists don’t go to work for oil drillers.
Exactly!
“… subverting the church”? What an odd perspective. Do you really think this counselor was indoctrinating the students into a same sex lifestyle? You are paranoid. Just perhaps she loves doing this kind of work and this place was hiring and she didn’t think her personal life should be the object of the administration’s judgement since she’s not teaching religion.
BINGO!
Randy S.: If she loves this kind of work there are many other schools she could be doing the work at. No, this is “you march to my drummer Mr Employer, no matter how in conflict it is with your beliefs.”
Dominick – try substituting “Black” for gay in your theory and see how stupid it sounds. If that is hard for you to grasp, let’s say “Sorry, we don’t like Black people so we don’t hire them. If you don’t like that, then go work someplace where they do like your kind.” See?
Completely agree!
EVERYONE KNOWS THE RULES BEFORE THEY SIGN THE CONTRACT.
Illegal contracts are unenforceable. This litigation is attempting to get to the issue of whether calling every warm body walking through the doors is a “minister”. That’s BS.
Here we go again. Geeze, will these people ever give it up and just PAY ATTENTION to what they are signing?
The answer is “NO” because they want to force Secular-Humanism down the throat of every person living in The United States of America, making it the default religion where each person is their own god and answers to no one.
Would they sign a contract for less money than they think they are worth and then turn around and sue the employer for not paying them enough?
Bob, the only people trying to force their thinking down the throat of others is the CC. Also, see my post above about contracts that contain an illegal provision being unenforceable.
Hey Bob, the secular humanism ship sailed during the pandemic and a lot of conservative Christians helped it happen. I don’t recall many religious folks standing up to state that hey, a bunch of vaccine deniers didn’t have “sincere religious beliefs”, they’d just read some stuff on Facebook.
Heck, folks like Micah Beckwith helped enable their nonsense and wrote letters about how these folks who wouldn’t know a chapter from a verse actually had beliefs based on religion, thereby cheapening those with actual beliefs in the process.
But please, go on about how the gays and the Democrats are the problem instead of church “leadership” less interested in saving souls for eternity and more interested in political power during their comparatively brief time on earth.