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How much will it cost to park there?
Wow.
Full stop
Any worries about traffic congestion?
There’s no money to be had in fixing traffic.. And when you’re as color blind as fishers dpw is, they only see “light on” & “light off”… Who cares what it really means
By “blighted” Scott’s financiers mean “not shiny boring boxes that look like everything else”… How many more ‘5 over 1’ type buildings is fishers gonna get? Just how many insurance sales, pizza joints, cross fit, home decor, and online banking offices, are really needed? What happens in 15 years when no one wants to be near these behemoth overpriced cheaply built buildings?
They have drunk the New Urbanism Kool-Aid, big time. Add to that PPP (aka public money for private development) and you will get oversaturated with “5 over1” buildings. Reminds me of the 80s when “flex space” was so overbuilt that not another square foot of it was built for over a decade. Developers get a formulaic idea of what works and they will drive that into the ground until the market forces finally take over and the first downturn comes along and all of a sudden there are no more 55+ people willing to pay the high rents of “luxury” apartments, or Millennials to pay $1200 for a studio or one bedroom. It will come, even to Fishers and Carmel. When public money is used for private development, risk is lowered and market forces are largely ignored. Where are the market studies for all this development? I believe it will come sooner than 15 years, Chris H. The developers will take their profits (from taxpayers) and be long gone when all this goes south. It’s not a question of if but of when. I predict 2 to 5 years.
Yup. Spot on.
Why do all these new buildings, whether in Carmel, Fishers, Noblesville all look the same? The architects need a little more imagination. Maybe a return to more traditional architecture that won’t look updated in a decade would make some sense.
You might look at this Wendover Productions — It’s about being lazy in design, code enforcement, being cheap to build, and already designed for myriads of communities… Welcome to Fishersby’s — the “Local” community…
https://youtu.be/UX4KklvCDmg (Why Everywhere in the US is Starting to Look the Same)
If developers are going build, why not have unique architecture designs that stands out and make people appreciate the sites? Carmels MIDTOWN sort of gives an example of mix architecture designs, especially around Cake Bake Shop. Kinda of give you an European street style. I would suggest Fishers do the same.
+ 1
Unique artistic architecture is needed badly throughout Indianapolis.
There is no creativity and everything just looks bland & boring.
The real estate market as a whole has it’s arms tied behind it’s back. Everyone is talking trash about the 5 over 1 designs (agreed it’s not great) but try to build anything else and actually make $$$. You can’t right now. Interest rates and high prices command boring luxury apartments and expensive SFH. Nothing else makes any money. See any affordable houses being built? Nope, home builders would go broke building them. Nothing is cheap right now. Creative designs = higher cost. It’s part of the market cycle and not much can be done about it given our shortage of housing.
You make some very good points and people on the outside looking in don’t understand all the regulations and financing headaches a developer goes through to try to build anything, let alone something unique and different. Can you imagine how much it would cost any city to build anything similar to monument circle in Downtown Indy?