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Interesting timing. When the curtain was being prepared to be pulled on her inflated salary and expenses.
I think the salary was already revealed in the last round of press.
Chris – I mean the reasoning behind it. You can’t take an inflated salary when there is a deficit. It doesn’t math right:-)
So, if my math is correct, despite the accolades and increasing attendance, the Christkindlmarkt would not have generated a profit without the subsidy(ies) from the City of Carmel. In other words, it is a charity (non-profit)…perhaps a worthwhile one, but a charity nonetheless.
I believe most would agree to “worthwhile” for sure. With some limits, efficiencies, and pragmatic projections. It is a well-loved part of the city calendar (Indy too), county involvement, and holiday season stalwart and not just from locals only. People travel to visit. The deficit – roughly $750K per year to Carmel – is nothing compared to the property tax revenue increase.
What else would happen for 30 days in bone-chilling December in Carmel. ZERO!? Ghost town means ZERO in other ways too. ZERO exposure. The $750K is more like $250K – max. Carmel pays nothing but gets nothing if the Market disappeared. Not that much money for 30 days of high-end Carmel exposure in a pretty bad weather holiday season.
It is a non-profit, but also not run with transparency. Inflated salary, hiring friends and family at high salaries, unnecessary travel, the list goes on. The next qualified leader will get the machine working well. Its a great asset to the city and state.
I would also assume that local restaurants, shops and other business benefit from the new visitors that come to enjoy the festivities and see an increased revenue
Great points…sometimes you need to spend $ to make $. Does the investment by the City bring returns to the community that can be measured both objectively and subjectively…is there transparency for the taxpayers to help them understand the cost/benefit analysis.
Local restaurants benefit, probably shops too, but that is a small percentage. The transparency is what is missing on the City investment.
I was visiting Denver recently, a gentleman I met said he’d been to Indy and then corrected himself and said he’d been to Christkindlmarkt. When he lived in Chicago, he and his wife came to Carmel just for the event. He loved it! What’s happening is tragic, just tragic. I’m so very disappointed in the mayor.
The mayor is cleaning up the mess. Wasn’t the one that created it.
My question is how does a non profit come from the mind of the former Mayor and then the City of Carmel sends Millions to this alleged non profit. It being considered a “subsidiary” of the city sends up more red flags than a CA wildfire.
I see a lot of comments about how great the Christkindlmarkt is and all of the benefits it brings to the Carmel community – and all of it is true! BUT if there is waste a abuse, you don’t look the other way and “write it off” simply because you are benefitting from the event either way! Both things can be true at the same time – it is a great Carmel event AND there are abuses that need to be corrected!
I think it benefits Carmel. That said, why can’t Carmel promote a “Christmas Market” of their own. It doesn’t have to be authentic German. Just a Christmas market, set up the same way with less restrictions. I believe people would still support it as it’s a festive holiday event. It doesn’t have to be “Christkindlmarkt”.
Bob –
Marketing.
Christkindmark adds sizzle or pizzazz that a more generic “Christmas Market” would be less likely to add.
You are obviously not in marketing…
Like most of the excess in Carmel, including massive density issues, we can attribute it to our former socially inadequate mayor. And don’t get me started on the property taxes to pay for his inadequacies. Shame on the electorate for ignoring him for years. But his timing is good!
Rated as one of the best suburbs to live in the US year after year, but if Keith says its bad well …