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Who knew a campaign of bluster and noise would fail to produce any meaningful policy. Shocker.
WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP
Time to oust all of these lawmakers and start over. Wasteful spending is to blame and they know it. Programs that don’t fall under “common sense” need to be cut. Why are they afraid to approach this topic meaningfully? Let’s get them out asap!.
Your waste and pork is someone else’s essential government services.
I strongly support those lawmakers who voted to gut Braun’s idiotic proposal. Wasteful spending? Utter nonsense. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about: you’ve no idea how property taxes are determined; no idea what they fund (and don’t fund); no idea why some areas prosper and some die; and, perhaps most importantly of all, you have nothing but contempt for the voters in an area such as Carmel who explicitly voted in FAVOR of things such as a new pool and voted to pay for it, and the citizens from all over the state (and nation) who vote with their feet by moving to Carmel.
Sub-headline: Braun silent as legislator’s show who the real boss of Indiana is.
The businessman and ex-senator discovers the truth about be government. He has little power in Indiana.
Thank God
Hell hath no fury like a politician having their pork taken away. Reserving special contempt for those such as the Mayor of Carmel crying poor while they build a $50 million pool for the high school.
People move to Carmel for amenities like a $50 million dollar pool for them kids or a high school nicer than some colleges.
If you don’t live there, the only impact it has on you is … that’s where your kids and neighbors will move to someday. They will gladly pay more to get more.
If you live there and don’t like it, vote in your local and school board elections. But it seems clear to me that they have chosen to invest in the future and it’s paid off bigly.
Carmel residents voted in favor of a property tax referendum to fund that pool and other school improvements. People don’t move to places for low taxes. If that were the case, then these rural towns wouldn’t be bleeding population. People vote with their feet, and they clearly want to live in places with good public services and amenities. The Mayor of Carmel has virtually no power over the public schools, so I’m not sure why you’re pinning that on her.
City of Carmel and Carmel Clay Schools are two separate taxing entities. The City does not fund school facilities or operations. The City has no control over schools and vice versa.
These comments ignore reality. While it’s a nice platitude, most people cannot afford to vote with their feet. Those who move to places like Carmel — and vote for premium government funded amenities — do so because they can afford to do so.
The census numbers would disagree with you.
Jealousy is such an ugly thing to make public, especially on line. Dominic and Michele S. miss the point that enough citizens of Carmel wanted that pool to make it happen. Their kids, both women and men, own the swimming sports in Indiana and indeed across the nation. Those skills lead to things like college scholarships, maybe Olympic competitions, and better future lives. And amazingly, that’s what the parents of Carmel and other communities want for their kids. Can you believe it? Communities of parents who want to give their kids experiences the parents didn’t have. And futures the parents were given by their parents, maybe only better. Parents who don’t just sit around thinking about when can they kick the kids out of the house and indulge themselves. But parents who put their kids first. Gosh…what will happen next?
Would these two have felt better if the facility was for football? Basketball? Oh, maybe a big race track for the NASCAR folks…
I can’t speak to those two individuals.
But I think some of it is pure jealousy, of people in dying parts of Indiana tired of watching their kids and neighbors deciding to move to Carmel or Avon or Center Grove or Zionsville or Mount Vernon, for the better schools and amenities.
We could invest in the future, really expand the READI grants. Invest in infrastructure and education.
Or, we could attack those areas. Belittle them for being too good for their own good. Pull them back down and shame them. Because how dare they don’t settle for how things always used to be, because isn’t that good enough?
and yet, those areas Joe B. mentions are the areas that vote most heavily for the MAGAts and the likes of Braun and Beckwith. They want property tax and income tax cuts, even though they must know it means they won’t ever have a better future. Their elected representatives want to kill those programs.
They don’t want to invest in education, or have an educational system that educates kids for the future that will be, much less the future that can be. The future is advanced skills and higher education. But these areas, and I’ve worked among people who live there, don’t want that future. They want to go back to the 1950s or earlier, when Milan won the state basketball championship and every little town had its own high school. Back when life was simpler, and white men ruled the world. Well, that’s not likely to happen. Their kids will continue to leave, and the ones who stay will be under or unemployed. And they’ll all keep voting MAGAt hoping for a world that never can be.
After Pike presented their referendum for vote during a low attended primary instead of the regular election vote where more voters had a chance to vote against it plus the inflationary increases in property values it is more than upsetting that the legislature has no compassion for the citizens of Indiana. It’s disgusting.