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It’s a lot to unpack here but overall think every one of those sites could and should be redeveloped. It’s going to positively affect this area of Indianapolis. Traffic will could be worse (it only gets worse in America) but at least the 65/70 split and I-69 will be completed before any of these projects break ground.
Let’s get it;!!!! Build up and involve rooftop Everything!!
Wells is always a wet blanket. “Don’t build the big hotel at Pan Am Plaza but let me build MY hotel in the Warehouse District.”
Wells is being realistic. Real estate development right now is highly sensitive to macroeconomic factors, especially the inflation and interest rate environments, which govern expected returns.
Wells is a clown! Build it and fill it!!! Don’t wait looking around while losing!!!!!! supposed to be top ten in Everything!!!!!!!!! Get busy!!!!!! Or get out the way!!!!!!!
Blah blah blah. This has been Indy’s problem since I moved here 30 years ago. Sooooo conservative. Don’t take risks. This is how cities like Austin and Columbus and Nashville have easily passed us up. Had we been more aggressive and progressive, we’d be more like Minneapolis at this point. Instead, we are a larger Louisville or Des Moines or Omaha. Grow a pair already, Indy.
Michael G–in the last two years, hundreds of businesses have fled downtown Minneapolis because the progressive city can’t seem to go four months without a riot.
The city represents the headquarters for Target…yet the DT Minneapolis Target closed. Now people are fleeing formerly stable neighborhoods because of the rash of home and car break-ins. The only place where housing starts are surging is in the suburbs.
I understand that there were a lot of smart development decisions made in that very politically homogeneous city, back in the good old days of 2017 and before. The same can be said for Seattle, which has also turned into a cesspool. In what reasonable way should any of the other cities listed be emulating MPLS?
Always risky to share your ideas and development concepts with politicians. They can’t be trusted and oftentimes bring in one of their big political contributors, party buddies and friends. Good way to get blindsided. I know, because it has happened to me.
Explain and expose the buster!!
It’s still better than those cities you named but it’s got to move on away from entertaining others!! Time for the city to show the world what it really is!!! Vote all lames out!!!! And become top 20 Everything!!!!!!! Nothing can stop indianapolis!!! If they assert themselves correctly!!!! Plenty room for growth!!!! Miles of growth room!!!!
How many rfps have been sent out for the Old City Hall? Seems we go through this every two to three years and nothing ever happens with it.
Much potential here.
But..You must ABSOLUTLEY give me a REASON why I should live and or work downtown. I don’t think anyone can answer that right now. Young people living in downtowns eventually meet, marry, and buy homes in the burbs. What schools do I send my kids to downtown? Do I have to drive to shop and run errands on the weekends? Is the bank open? How far away is Costco? These are real concerns in many cities.
The restaurant scene is more varied and vibrant than anywhere else in Indiana (Mass Ave, fountain square, downtown proper, irvington though thats a little bit of a drive). The walkability (and bike) is, again, better than anywhere else in Indiana due to the cultural trail and interconnectedness of mass ave, downtown, fountain square and the surrounding areas. As far as entertainment and shows, I would argue downtown is best though there is some stiff competition around the state. With the shows on Mass Ave and downtown, the sporting events, and the festivals using the parks, downtown has an argument to make that they are the best in entertainment.
Granted there are downsides. The school options arent great. Traffic can be bad as can parking. For errands, yeah there is no big box store (Walmart, target, etc) which is frustrating and the grocery stores are smaller than average due to space.
But there are PLENTY of reasons to live downtown, though much less so if you have kids.
I’ve looked at moving to the burbs a couple of times but have decided to stay downtown for one big reason – it’s a lifestyle decision. If you enjoy walking to get a cup coffee, regularly meeting friends out for dinner, using the monon/canal for running and biking, and a number of other things, then downtown is right for you. Yes, the suburbs have all those things but I can do those without ever getting into my car from my home downtown. Not to mention, I appreciate the diversity and living among more likeminded people. But, if kids and schools are your primary focus then suburbs with homes that have more square footage and larger yards might be better. I still make a trip to costco or the mall every couple of weeks but it’s no more inconvenient to do that from downtown than it would be the burbs. I know traffic downtown sucks but have you seen traffic in Fishers?
Downtown is also for people who don’t like wasting their lives commuting. Driving 20-30 minutes from the burbs — twice every day — is a complete waste of time. I can get to work by car, foot, bike or bus in 5-10 minutes depending on my mood and mode of travel.
And yes, we have great schools downtown. And yes, the banks have regular hours. And yes, Costco delivers so who cares where it is. These are not real concerns.
The Minneapolis references is not accurate and reflects more of an opinion rather than a fact. Take a closer look at downtown Minneapolis housing, including new condo construction, and compare that to the much smaller Indianapolis market. Minneapolis anchors a major metropolitan area far larger than Indianapolis, includes strong and vibrant central city neighborhoods which are not being abandoned and still are vibrant, a refreshing change to far too much of Indianapolis’ burnt out, run-down unappealing central city. Minneapolis has focused more successfully that Indy on maintaining solid strong central city neighborhoods with moderate to high incomes. Perhaps this is due to the solid infrastructure (streets and sidewalks — one repeats, sidewalks), paved alleys, park system, trails, regional transit (not just Minneapolis), a major international airport (hub) and a historically broad base of employment. Minneapolis and Hennepin County, one of nation’s most populous, includes HQ of several Fortune 500 companies, a Federal Reserve Bank, Wells Fargo . . . .etc. Indianapolis is not in the league of Minneapolis. Despite the protests and unfortunate destruction along Lake Street in Minneapolis (which is not downtown); construction continues in both areas and both areas are much more lively and truly urban compared to Indianapolis.
And, Minneapolis has consistently had a much stronger and larger employment base downtown compared to Indy. Again, a metro area historically much larger, more progressive, better funding, better planned, better managed, and higher average income. Yet, both cities — as most in the US — can sadly identify bad apples among those sworn to serve and protect. Defunding is not the answer — however, accountability, transparency, training, adherence to rules, union protection, personal responsibility, and ending the code of silence and retaliatory actions must end.
Cease with the hyperbole . . . there is not a riot on a daily basis in Minneapolis. Don’t confound a Target store closing with a corporate presence.
As for crime and destruction, are there not homicides in Indianapolis, on a more than an infrequent basis? Furthermore the rise in crime during the pandemic has occurred nationwide and is not a particular peculiarity for both Minneapolis and Indianapolis.
Indianapolis dwarf’s!!!!! Minneapolis and st Paul combined!!! Google!!!!
Minneapolis metro population is: 3.690,261
Indianapolis metro population is: 1.858,000
in all fairness, Minneapolis adds the city of St Paul to its metro but when we look at Minneapolis city limits, its population is just 420,324, while Indianapolis has a population of 892,656. Yes Minneapolis metro is bigger but Indy city population is much larger. Indys suburbs like Fishers, Carmel, Nobelsville, Westfield, Greenwood eat, are all growing. Will Indys metro catch Minneapolis, maybe not in my life time but it depends on which stat you’re looking at to gauge which city is bigger. Indy has a few large companies both Fortune 500 and 5000 Hq here. Both cities are in cold midwest states and you either love the places or you hate them.