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I”ve told my representatives and I’m telling the rest here, we do not want redistricting in Indiana. Come on……
Except YOU, do NOT speak for ALL of Indiana, you self center idiot!!!!
Matt W. — WE DO NOT WANT OFF CYCLE REDISTRICTING (aks cheating).
Thank you, Elisa. I did the same (emailed my representative). Redistricting is undemocratic and a waste of time and money.
Matt W., probably shouldn’t be calling anyone an idiot (glass houses). You say poster is an idiot because they don’t speak for all of Indiana yet you are perfectly happy for Hoosier Democrats to have ZERO representation in Washington? Get outta here with that nonsense! We DON’T need redistricting! What we NEED is for our state legislators to grow spines and stand up to the tyrant occupying the people’s House!
Also, Matt W, go back to grammar school and pay attention this time.
surprise! they got the votes.
Whatever happened to politicians that stood for something other than cowardness?
They got bullied into submission which was inevitable the entire time.
All they needed was five people to fold and they got it.
They do stand for something else, getting re-elected…
And politicians will behave this way because they feel safe in the districts they drew for themselves until they are voted out … and the odds are low they will be voted out.
turns out swatting is an effective tool.
Maybe time to change parties…..
Amen! I’m a lifelong Republican of the Reagan variety. The party has left me. I hope all the RINOs lose in November. Time to clean house. Whoever replaces them has to be better – or at least different! Bunch of spineless, clueless MAGAts.
Stephen S. +1
Good to see some Senators want to stand-up to Governor Newsome as he blatantly eliminates Republican leaning US House seats in California, like has been done all over New England. Thank you!
You do know, don’t you, that Newsom only acted because Trump strong-armed Texas into grabbing five more Republican seats. That is the ONLY REASON that Newsom did what he did in California. It was a response to a Republican gerrymandering power-grab, and would never have happened had Trump not fired the first shot in this ridiculous battle. Also, Newsom put it to a vote of all in California, and they approved it. And finally, the California plan is intended to be only temporary, ultimately reverting to the districts that were drawn by a nonpartisan commission once this current crazy season has passed. So no, Indiana’s potential new gerrymander is not a reasonable reaction to Newsom, but just another escalation in a Trump power grab, which is happening only because Trump knows the majority of voters don’t like what he is selling.
Yes, but only AFTER Texas went on their knees and redrew their districts to abide by the wishes of their lord and master Uncle Donald.
Oh, I see. Newsome gerrymanders and is a hero. Cool. Cool.
Newsome is diluting every Hoosiers’ vote in Congress. Yet you find a way to make him a victim. Typical of the party that celebrates never-ending victimhood.
nice to see the republicans grow a pair and fight back like democrats always have. Nice guy/do the right thing does not work in today’s political arena. We can long for the days but for now fight fire with fire
Pablo, Democrats tried to ban political gerrymandering nationwide. Republicans blocked the effort.
Besides, Trump claims he’s got great approval numbers. Why the need to do mid-decade redistricting?
Paul, you realize that the people of California decided to do that. these are not the same. don’t conflate them.
Pablo, Pablo, Pablo. You don’t get it. You think California’s response to Texas’ blatant gerrymandering dilutes Hoosier voices more than the possibility that Hoosiers might have ZERO Democrat representation in Washington? That’s just ignorant, sorry. Not all Hoosiers are MAGA loyalists.
This will likely undo some of what was done in the 2010-2012 timeframe. This has as much chance of hurting the GOP as it does of helping. As such, it is a bad move, especially since so many constituents have said to not do it. Putting politics over people is a path to failure.
The MAGAts are 20%, the Socialists are 20%, when will the middle 60% stand up and take back our country!?!?!
Going to be hard to make everyone happy. The legislators don’t want to take a vote because it shows their constituents, who don’t want redistricting how they voted, either way. Braun wants a vote because he wants to make Trump happy. In an ideal world the courts simple declare it unconstitutional and everyone can blame them (briar patch solution). Bray is clearly trying to avoid a public vote because he’ll lose his job one way or the other. If the Texas redistricting is overturned and it could be, that’s another way out. California won’t be overturned because it was done by referendum. Fun times in Indiana.
Well, I guess Braun and his supervisor, Trump, are happy now.
+1, cave in to the Donald or pay the price
No maps to review or discuss, but can earn some money wasting time. Truly no concern as to what is best for Indiana and their Hoosier constituents. Very disappointing that they bend to outrside pressure, I hope there are some good solid candidates to run against the legislative leaders. We need a change to those who care!!!
It is a short session, so they are supposed to be in session for no more than 30 working days.
With all of the issues facing Indiana … they’re going to dedicate a large chunk of the session to redo maps they just did four years ago not because their constituents asked for it or any particular reason, other than fear and fealty.
Just remember, when their choices were the interests of Hoosiers or the folks who threatened to cut off their sweet, sweet campaign contributions… they ignored you and went for the cash. They don’t care what you think, because at the end of the day, you won’t be angry enough to vote them out of office.
Showing once again how Republicans are such craven cowards in the face of Trump.
+1
It is truly sad how the Grand Old Party is nothing but a bunch of cowards and wimps with the elevation of Trump to leadership. Trump has a very recorded history of bullying and being an egotistical a$$, and now through in the mental instability and we get a real whiz bang for a leader of not only the Republicans but for the U.S.
The Newsome comments are silly – the people of CA passed a referendum. If we had the power to put this to a vote, which we don’t, it would be different.
Also, because his name is Newsom.
Cool, was looking for someone to vomit Fox News back to me.
Cowards are running the state.
Good move. At least we will have a vote. Looking at Illinois and California makes me sick on what they have done
Yet Republicans blocked an effort by Democrats to make that effort illegal. Make it make sense.
Brian M. – No thoughts on Texas?
What? Californias CITIZENS voted to allow redistricting. Hoosier voters won’t have a say in what happens here, apparently.
Modern Communism-one party in control with some market based economic competition. The new Republican plat form. Go figure.
It’s called Politics, with a capital P. It’s how a democratic republic actually works.
Now the members can also actually vote on it all.
Just a reminder, Kevin … in 2021, when this state last did redistricting, the legislature did nine public hearings. They travelled the state to solicit feedback. And let’s quote what the politicians had to say when they’re done, from their own press release:
“”We have said all along that we were committed to drawing fair maps in a transparent way, and I believe we have done that,” Senate President Pro Tem Rodric Bray (R-Martinsville) said. “We prioritized keeping communities of interest together and drawing districts that make sense for the Hoosiers who live there, while maintaining nearly equal populations in each district. I believe these maps reflect feedback from the public and will serve Hoosiers well for the next decade.”
“We’re incredibly grateful for the work of Representative Greg Steuerwald and Senator Eric Koch who tirelessly and thoughtfully led the way on drawing these maps,” House Speaker Todd Huston (R-Fishers) said. “Redistricting is a complex and important process that impacts all Hoosiers. We’re thankful for the hundreds of constituents who shared their feedback along the way, and I’m confident we delivered fair maps that ensure every Hoosier vote counts.”
Huston and Bray both emphasized the new maps meet all state and federal requirements, and focus on maintaining compactness and keeping communities of interest together.
• The Congressional map keeps 84 of Indiana’s 92 counties whole, and includes a near equal deviation, one or fewer persons, from the ideal population of 753,948.”
That high regard they hold for themselves, the claim we do things differently here in Indiana? Gone forever. The situation called for courage and they failed the assignment. History will judge them poorly.
https://www.indianasenaterepublicans.com/general-assembly-approves-new-congressional-state-legislative-districts-10-1-21
Redistricting will backfire spectacularly. Anyone who votes to stick with Trump and a big MAGA priority will go down as part of a sinking ship. Votes on this will send a message into posterity about who is part of the past versus the future. It’s already over. Why continue supporting this ridiculous agenda? We need grown-ups at the helm of this great country and state.
Somehow, I knew the holdouts would cave … just when former Republicans such as myself thought maybe some backbone and integrity were returning to some of the party’s leaders. But, when Donnie calls … I guess that’s what cowards do. With Texas already being challenged on its new maps in court, this is yet another fool’s errand the Republicans are on. As Jason G. noted, it will backfire spectacularly, or least I pray it does.
People are fed up with the daily intrusion of the federal and state Republicans doing something controversial, unconstitutional, nakedly partisan or just plain stupid every freaking day. We miss the days when adults led Washington and the State and most of the news out of the capitals was pretty boring. But when juvenile delinquents, sociopaths and morons are in charge and running amok, adult supervision is required constantly.
When the pendulum swings back to the left, it will be as never before, and as Steve Bannon has predicted, (and I pray) many Republicans will find themselves in jail not because of a political witch hunt, but because they have — in numbers no one has ever seen before, as some idiot is so fond of saying — defied the Constitution.
Richard B. +1
Somehow, I knew the holdouts would cave … just when former Republicans such as myself thought maybe some backbone and integrity were returning to some of the party’s leaders. But, when Donnie calls … I guess that’s what cowards do. With Texas already being challenged on its new maps in court, this is yet another fool’s errand the Republicans are on. As Jason G. noted, it will backfire spectacularly, or least I pray it does.
People are fed up with the daily intrusion of the federal and state Republicans doing something controversial, unconstitutional, nakedly partisan or just plain stupid every freaking day. We miss the days when adults led Washington and the State and most of the news out of the capitals was pretty boring. But when juvenile delinquents, sociopaths and morons are in charge and running amok, adult supervision is required constantly.
When the pendulum swings back to the left, it will be as never before, and as Steve Bannon has predicted, (and I pray) many Republicans will find themselves in jail not because of a political witch hunt, but because they have — in numbers no one has ever seen before, as some idiot is so fond of saying — defied the Constitution.
Republicans are acting like they have only one constituent their dear leader TRUMP .
Sad to have a governor who does not represent the people of Indiana and only cares about catering to the MAGA orange currently occupying the White House.
We are no longer citizens. We are subjects, forced to live by the rules dictated by an elite class of individuals whose allegiance is to an authoritarian dictator who craves power and self-enrichment over the needs of his country.
But Brent, her laugh! Egg prices! if we didn’t vote for Trump, she’d bring about socialism!
A healthy democracy requires congressional maps that reflect voters, not whichever party happens to be drawing the lines. Before Indiana rushes into mid-cycle redistricting, it’s worth recognizing that the problem isn’t unique to one party or one state. Across the country, our U.S. House delegation bears less and less resemblance to the actual national vote.
Take three deep-blue states often held up as models. In California, Democrats won about 60% of the House vote but hold 83% of the seats. In Illinois, they received 53% of the vote but control 82% of seats. And in Massachusetts, Democrats earned roughly 80% of the vote yet occupy 100% of the delegation. Republicans aren’t competitive in those maps—not because they don’t exist, but because the structure of the districts makes their votes far less efficient.
The truth is simple: both parties benefit from unrepresentative maps somewhere, and voters lose everywhere. Instead of a race to match or outdo the gerrymandering of other states, Indiana, and the country, would be far better served by reforms that make the U.S. House and Senate more reflective of the people they represent.
Independent redistricting commissions, multi-member districts with proportional allocation, or national standards on partisan fairness would all move us toward a Congress that mirrors the country, not the cartographers. The goal shouldn’t be more partisan advantage, it should be a national legislature that looks like America, no matter which state you live in. But, until that happens each party needs to do what it can to reflect the national vote in Washington.
Republicans blocked an effort by Democrats to political gerrymandering illegal and you want to claim it’s a “both sides” issue.
Make it make sense.
Easy to propose it when you’re already fixed most of the Blue states and don’t want your opponent to do the same.
Democrats wanted to lock in an advantage so they gave away their own ability to maintain the advantage? How’s that make sense?
Again, the very reforms you supposedly call for were blocked by the same folks you claim to have no other choice than to initiate the same behavior.
It’s always the same game. New “bipartisan” commenters claim they want bipartisan things, but since Republicans keep blocking them, justify the Republican behavior and support the Republicans. That’s why they don’t do things like include Texas or Florida or North Carolina in their list of gerrymandered states.
Don, you say that Democrats have already fixed most blue states and now want to prevent red states from gerrymandering. If that were true, that would certainly be unfair. But that is simply not the case. Many blue states have adopted nonpartisan systems, while the most gerrymandered states (outside of Illinois) are red states. And, there are more red states than there are blue states. Severe gerrymandering as it currently exists already is far more beneficial to Republicans than Democrats, and now they want to make it even worse. That is the problem. Democrats have long been on the side of eliminating gerrymandering as a general rule (it is not a coincidence that it was a Republican-dominated Supreme Court that ruled partisan gerrymandering is OK).
Trump started this stupidity thinking he could pull a fast one in Texas. Then in a defensive move the Dems do it in California (of course all the Trumpers have been brainwashed into thinking it’s the Dems who started it). Trumps evil plan legally failed in Texas as being deemed too racist (of course) but the Dems legally succeed in California (of course). Now he needs Indiana to help save is sorry —.
Disgusting. Republicans can only win by cheating.
Democrats allowed 10s of millions of illegals to flood the States. The census counted illegals. Re-doing the maps makes sense. California is re-doing their maps. Why shouldn’t Indiana re-do ours? There is no cheating. Name the law that is being ignored?
The 2020 census was conducted and completed under the Trump administration and Trump was president until January 20, 2021. Remember, he built the wall?
You are correct, no law is being ignored. There is no law against a president who is an asset of the Russian government and does their bidding … who is trying to distract us all from what’s in the Epstein files … while he enriches himself using the office of the Presidency … threatening states and their representatives with being primaried if they don’t do his bidding.
Boy that MSNBC come spewing out.. The fact that you don’t know that the whole Russian collusion was fabricated by the Democratic party’s leadership, or that if there was anything in the Epstein files related to Trump that was damaging the Democrats had 4 years to release them. But, lets not talk about Biden’s scandals, classified documents, using the deep state and the DOJ to attack political enemies, cocaine in the White House, Coercion of other countries for money by his son and his brother with “10% going to the big guy” only to give a blanket pardon on his way out, autopen, mental abilities covered up (not very well I must say), letting 20,000,000 illegal aliens into the country, declaring parents at PTA meetings and Catholics were domestic terrorist, forcing big tech to sensor and do the democrats bidding, I could go on, but you get the point, or do you?
Yes, I get the point. You’re a product of the right wing media infrastructure designed to make you angry, keep you angry, and keep sending money to the GOP. Another pawn of the elites, distracted by scandal after scandal, voting against their own best interests again and again and again because they’re not seeing the big picture. At this point, they’re either so far gone it’s kind of a lost cause to engage them, profiting themselves from the scam, or they’re just too embarrassed to admit they’ve been had.
Because, if they were truly actually interested in any of what they claim to be against, they wouldn’t have turned a blind eye to Jared Kushner getting $2 billion from the Saudi’s as a thank-you gift for allowing the Crown Prince to unalive Jamal Khashoggi. Heck, even the folks who evaluate investments for the Prince said giving Kushner the money was a bad idea. But, hey, things happen, I guess?
And, boy, January 6th. That was something. Lost all 63 court cases in the run-up. No evidence of any fraud but still convinced a crowd to rush the Capitol, then sat on his hands while it played out and blamed everyone else. He’s got most of you fooled it was someone else’s fault even though … he later pardoned everyone involved in his laughable coup. Worry not, the next one will be better planned. He should be in jail for 27 years like Bolsonaro and should thank his lucky stars Merrick Garland is so incompetent.
But that’s old news. Let’s just focus on the train wreck in the nine months since Trump returned to office. Because Trump ran for office not for himself, but for the American people. He’s a populist, remember?
That’s why his first course of action was to ram through yet another tax cut for high earners, paid for with big cuts to services uses by every day Americans like childcare and health insurance. Sure, Trump says he’s got the “concepts of a plan” to replace the ACA that would be “better and cheaper”, but there’s no evidence of either. Meanwhile, the wealthy get more money for that second jet (it’s tax deductible, you know) and third home. Just a reminder, a big tax cut for the wealthy was the first thing he did in his first term as well, blowing up the deficit in the process. (Why any of you believe a single Republican cares about the deficit is beyond me.)
Masked agents who refuse to identify themselves grabbing people off the street and disappearing them without a warrant after profiling them based on their skin color, including numerous American citizens. I recall when masked secret agents was one of those secret goals of the “new world order” Democrats were going to bring about … but now the same thing is cheered by Republicans, who claimed to be all about the “rule of law”.
Trump’s envoy to Russia Steve Witkoff working with the Russians on how to better influence Trump as he rolls out a “peace plan” that is “give Putin what he wants” as a reward for starting a war with the Ukraine. Apparently the name Neville Chamberlain doesn’t ring any bells for Trump. (It’s amazing how many Trumpers love Russia and Hungary and Turkey these days. Or how many of their social media accounts aren’t actually based in America.)
Extrajudicial killings against boats in the Gulf of Mexico against supposed drug smugglers that … we don’t even bother to arrest after we capture.
A Secretary of Defense who can’t manage a pull-up threatening far more decorated veterans than him of the “crime” of reminding troops that they all swore an oath to the Constitution, not to a president, and that the Uniform Code of Military Justice does not compel them to follow unlawful orders. For that hokey video, Trump claimed it was sedition punishable by death.
And that’s not even managing to touch on how they claim to be so against socialism but they’re strangely mute as the federal government interferes in industry after industry, even buying long-term stakes in multiple businesses and vetoing decisions they don’t like. How the President unilaterally implemented new taxes without the approval of Congress and convinced some of you that foreigners would pay them because he called them tariffs, neglecting that they were additional costs passed on to American consumers. Now, he wants to spend that money like it’s his personal piggy bank.
So, yeah, little wonder why Trump fears having a house of Congress that might actually raise their hands to any of this and say “Um, this isn’t right”.
By the way, cable news is a terrible way to get your information. It’s “censor”, and tell Lauren I said hi.
Joe, great summary argument. But it’s probably not worth the effort as the MAGA True Believers Club have been totally brainwashed…blind and deaf to facts and pumped full of “whatabouts”.
John, just a reminder, Donald Trump is the one who doesn’t care enough to allow Nigeria Christians into the United States.
Feel free to prove me wrong on anything. While you do, make sure to read up on George Retes … one of the 170 American citizens abducted by ICE. Smashing and grabbing a guy in a DAV plate and not believing his ID? No wonder ICE so cowardly wears masks.
https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will
Ps. If you’re trying to insult me, you’d accuse me of having “holey” underwear. But I will check the drawers in my drawers if it makes you feel better.
MAGA Indiana gave TRUMP a Senate seat TRUMP Senator Jim Banks and TRUMP assistant Dictator Braun in the Governor’s office plus election law violator Morales in Secretary of State in charge of elections . Enough is enough No to redistricting to give TRUMP two more TRUMP House seats.
It’s time to take all legal means to reduce the impact of the Democrat Party in this country! It’s far better than their strategy of shooting Republicans!
Why would I support this???? Because the Dems gerrymander their states and pretend they’re all “moral”..you know, the party that hates America and supports Islamists, every abortion up till birth, socialism, transgenderism for kids, hatred of Jews and Christians, …it truly is the party of Satan….
Projection much, John?
One little thought you can ponder this Thanksgiving Day … in June, Donald Trump, banned folks from Myanmar from entering this country, claiming they were all “foreign terrorists”. Nevermind there’s been a civil war for decades, and Burmese Christians have been persecuted and killed for their faith. Many of them have moved here to Indiana where they have raised families, built many churches, and been hardworking Americans.
This week, the Trump administration went one step further. They announced that those who are here on temporary protected status are being shipped back to face their fate, because a sham election (not my words, those of a bipartisan House panel) is enough of an excuse to turn them away.
Christians … fleeing death for their faith … but we are sending them back. It’s surely not because of their skin color, is it? Republicans wouldn’t be so shallow as to judge on skin color, would they?
Surely that’s not why Trump is allowing a mere 7500 immigrants and saving all but 500 of those spots for Afrikaners, would it?
https://thehill.com/homenews/5620883-myanmar-tps-termination-january/
John S….. LOL! such satire.
It seems like there is already a process for this in the state constitution, and all the pressure to change is from outside of the state. Redirecting does not seem to be in the states best interest.
Alexander, was the first clue the Republicans who are now calling for “Indianans” to support them, leaving even the WIBC radio hosts to mock them?
https://x.com/adamwren/status/1994925663598645728