Prosecutor seeking stay-away orders to help quell downtown Indy violence

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  1. OMG what is next, bed without supper? Existing orders, non contact etc. are worthless as is. Now we are going to slap their hands and tell them that their playground (downtown) is off limits. Oh the humanity.

    1. Came here to comment this. It is unfathomable that anyone thinks a “stay away order” will do absolutely anything. The violence will continue to worsen until these people are in prison.

  2. We get what we vote for. Missing Mayor and Soros funded Prosecutor who looks away from black youths killing each other.

    Lock them up and you save Mothers from attending funerals.

    1. Yep!! I think the legislature should take away prosecutorial duties from Marion County and put it at the state level. In addition, many of the judges in Marion County now are unwilling or unable to incarcerate REPEAT VIOLENT FELONS!!! for any length of time! So, the judicial function needs to be removed from Marion County as well.

  3. Imagine being an owner of a downtown business right now. Your future is totally in the hands of the gutless, inept political hacks running the city.

  4. Unfortunately, and I hate to say it, Indianapolis is now in a death spiral that it won’t recover from. Mears and his cohorts refuse to prosecute violent criminals – those who can afford to move their families into the suburbs of Hamilton, Boone and Hendricks counties (me included). This removes the voting block who was holding the line on conservative policies from Marion county. Policies get worse, people stop visiting and patronizing downtown, broad ripple, fountain square. Businesses close and events stay away. Tax base falls apart. Property value plummets. We have already been seeing this for the last few years. Violence increases with poverty. City goes bankrupt. Why would police stick around and even try? I have talked with several good IMPD officers who have moved to donut counties for this exact reason. Best of luck Indianapolis, I truly hope things turn around and that I look like an fearmongering idiot for this comment.

    1. IMPD officers have been moving to donut counties my entire working life…and I’m retirement age. Once they won the battle to be allowed to take “take home” cars home across the county line, the floodgates were open. And that was when business-oriented people (Goldsmith, Peterson, and Ballard) were the mayors.

    2. Well, except that’s not what’s happening. New businesses and projects are exploding downtown, new residential is being built, and the city seems to be recovering.

      Now, why don’t judges incarcerate more often? Mostly because there’s no room in the prisons. Indiana prisons, like those of most states and the federal system, are overcrowded and subject to court orders to keep down populations. Smaller, rural counties now make a lucrative profit off of handling incarcertaion duties (even though there was recently a bit of scandal because the State hadn’t paid in over six months or longer). You want more incarceration, good citizens of Indiana? Then vote for legislators who will build lots more jail cells, and pay for jail staff to staff these facilities. Because there aren’t enough of either.

    1. No, because a few years back, the Republican legislature decided people would no longer be required to have permits to carry hand guns, either openly or concealed. Police used to stop possible trouble makers to check on gun permits. It was largely racial profiling, but it helped. Now, can’t do it, though one of the teens arrested in the Circle shootings was so confronted and he ran while throwing away his gun away.

      Want guns off the street? go back to permits. Go back to random (and I do mean random, not profiled) suspicious stops. Make gun store owners put bollards up at their front and back walls so cars can’t be rammed in to break open the store. Don’t allow gun dealers to store their guns outside overnight in trailers before heading to a gun show.

      All that may help, but if you really want to get the guns off the street, be RESPONSIBLE PARENTS. Don’t have loaded guns laying about. Put on the trigger guards; put them in gun safes. If you think your child has a gun, go into their private space and find out. Search for it…it’s your house, and if they are there, they consent to having their room searched. If you think your child has a gun, call the police and they can inquire. DO SOMETHING TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

    2. Just curious Timothy S., if Black people account for 60% of those killed by firearms yet are only 14% of the population, would you support approx. 60% of the “random” stops be against Black folks? Would you consider that smart policing based on empirical data or just dismiss it as another example of white, neo-nazi Klansman cops terrorizing innocent citizens?

  5. I understand the Marion Co Prosecutor is now sending strongly worded letters to all violent criminals warning them that if they keep shooting people, they risk being disinvited from future outdoor festivals.

  6. The concept of stay away is fine, but the old classic question is ‘how do we know?’
    Do they wear a GPS ankle bracelet? Do they wear jail orange jump suits? Face paint? How do the police know when the kid steps over North Street?

    1. A stay away orders will be an automatic arrest if the person is stopped in the area for any reason.

      Our neighborhood pushed for its use and it was super effective in stopping prostitution 20 years ago.

    2. It’s a reactive measure. If there is such an order, and you’re found to have violated, there are reprecussions…hopefully jail time.

  7. Where are the parents and their accountability for the actions of THEIR children!? Will to bet not one of those kids has ” City of Indianapolis ” or “IMPD” listed as a birth parent on the birth certificate, yet it is the expectation that the City and/or IMPD are responsible for raising these kids.

    It also sickens me when the parent blames the City and/or IMPD when their kid is arrested, injured or killed. The parents rarely take responsibility for their kid but are quick to sue and blame others for the lack of parenting.

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