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I would not like to look out of my window at a 70′ wall either.
Three houses are across Sherman Drive from the site. Otherwise its immediate neighbors are the CSX tracks, a junkyard, a couple of trucking companies, and the backside of a grocery store and shopping center.
There will be landscape screening between the houses and the building across Sherman. They’ll be looking at grass and trees, not the mess they see now.
This development and its approval are a slap in the face to a neighborhood that has been mistreated for decades.
Your mentality is the slap in the face to that neighborhood. How dare you deny economic opportunity where you have no interest? Is that racism or fascism?
Shut up, Mike. You don’t live here.
These residents and the chicken chirp councilors that signed their last minute reds release have had decades to find alternative development for this derelict site, and have made no effort. Now that there is publicity on the proposal, the councilors speak out, what a joke they are.
Like I’ve said all along, it’s unfortunate these neighbors have used the concerns and issues associated with the larger 4-600 acre data centers. This site and development will not use the electricity or water the larger Google and meta sites may use.
The hearing examiner did the right thing today and she did her due diligence, as the neighbors apparently did not.
Smart decision. Residents who want vacant lots for another 43 years make no sense and I was shocked that the council allowed grandstanding or a political speech by Councilman Jesse Brown to waste time at today’s hearing. $500mm dollar investment inside the city seems smart – these buildings look cool too. I hope the developer pulls it all together and executes their plan to better the city
Based on the logic of others in this thread, any undeveloped scrap of land in the suburbs and exurbs should immediately be developed into data centers. Why let those unproductive plots of land remain empty just because they may have some development use at some undetermined point in the future?
The council allowed nothing; the hearing examiner always allows any Councilor to speak at these hearings.
I spoke because my constituents asked me to.
But Jesse, the residents near the site are represented by Mr. Gibson, not you.
Michael…this site has been a vacant and unused blight on the area since the early 1980s. There has been plenty of time for the interested neighbors and councilors to find a “higher and better” use but no one has.
I know both Councilor Gibson and the Hearing Examiner Ms. Weerts Hall to be dedicated and thoughtful people and public servants (also true of the DMD Planning staff), and I believe all have made a good and reasonable choice to support this development. Councilor Brown and the others need to butt out.
Chris, I encourage you to do some research on WHY brownfields like that stay vacant for so long. You might come to understand who is actually at fault. Hint, it wasn’t the neighbors or councilors who left the ground too contaminated to build on, nor should they be forced to shoulder the burden of cleaning it up.
Jessie’s about to masquerade as an at-large Councilor, further alienating himself from his peers and handicapping his ability to provide meaningful service to his actual constituents.
Actual constituent of Jesse Brown here:
1. Development in our neighboring neighborhoods affects us as well
2. I may not always agree with Jesse but he has responded helpfully and quickly to multiple emails of mine, most recently about the atrocious rollout of LRS
W live in a broad community, and Jesse is also a resident of this city. Everyone has a right to make their voice heard. If you don’t like it, move into his constituency and vote against him.
Michael, I’m actually a development/redevelopment professional. I know about brownfields. There’s nothing special about this one that would have prevented commercial or industrial reuse. I’ll stick with my statement: prospective users have had 40+ years to come forward, and none has…so this is probably the highest and best use of the land. It’s not as if there’s an actual choice between this and anything else.
This location is a contaminated brownfield that is currently zoned industrial. The company will have to do the necessary remediation on the soil before building. There are reasons to push back on some of the data center expansion that is going. This is one that should move forward.
First of all, the location is the original site of the Big 4 Railroad roundhouse and train yard. It’s the far eastern border of Brightwood, which was its own town and annexed into Indianapolis in 1895. Secondly, ‘Martindale’ ( an area) is north and west, beginning beyond Washington Park. Third, Brightwood began its blighted downfall in the mid 60’s. For about 60 years, viable business has evaporated. What are these residents complaining about? Maybe, just maybe a legitimate investment in industry might turn things around for the better. Trust me, the coal burning old trains, roundhouse, noise and pervasive smell of coal in the air was a lot more ‘environmentally unpleasant’ that anything this place can ever create.
Amazingly, quite a few posters who criticize other posters for having opinions about downtown but not living there, have outed themselves as also not living downtown. Which is it, are we a broad community where everyone has a voice? Or it you aren’t a falutin resident, no say for you?
Oh, Murray, seriously? Downtown is the “Regional Center” according to local ordinance and the Comp plan. It’s fundamentally different from the non-Downtown neighborhoods.
After all…how many neighborhoods have our State Capitol and state government offices, regional sports teams and museums, City government center, major universities, major hospitals, arts institutions, 40+ story buildings, multiple corporate headquarters, and 100,000-plus jobs for people who don’t live there?