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12 thoughts on “What’s next for women’s prison? Historic property offers possibilities

  1. Saving the Womens Prison, which is of no historical prominence and little historical significance to Indianapolis’ prestige Nationally or Internationally gets attention, yet we just demolished Diamond Chain without even a brick left for a Soccer Stadium which Mayor Hogsett left Keystone Construction holding the bag for. Then there is The National Automobile Factory which almost burns to the ground after decades of negligence and no civic attention.
    Facilities that significantly contributed to the prominence and integrity of our City just to be swept aside, yet we spend money and create social awareness and support for an old Prison which was an unfortunate necessity and created an economic drain.
    Oh well! Now let’s wreck the Heliport!!! “We dont need that” Oh, really??
    We simply do not live in a City of advanced societal principles any longer. We now live in a city, politically controlled by people who have no idea how to run or sustain a major metropolitan economic civic corporate entity.
    Fat fingered children wrecking our city, destroying our society, economically sucking us dry.

    1. I’m not sure the facility has historical significance either or value, except maybe the admin building and chapel. What’s the historical significance of the Diamond Chain building (other than the graves underneath)? Keystone owns that property, correct? Then, that company is free to do what they want with it (within city zoning guidelines). Why are you blaming the City? And how often do citizens – other than millionaires – use the heliport? IMO there are better uses for that property so close to downtown and within walking distance to other city amenities.

    2. Completely agree. “Too many fond memories there in that prison, please don’t tear it down.” what an absolute JOKE.
      Absolutely no one cares about preserving an old prison, least of whom the people who did time there. Does the free market mean nothing to the city of Indianapolis? This should be sold for private investment/development so that it becomes the highest and best use potential for the site. If they’d like to ask someone’s opinion, they should start with the Woodruff Place, Arsenal Heights, Holy Cross, and Willard Park neighborhoods, and maybe the staff and alumni of Arsenal Tech.

    3. MIKE M,
      Diamond Chain not only was an economic powerhouse worldwide, it was also owned by Arthur C Newby one of the four founders of IMS.
      Diamond Chains success also contributed to other significant endeavors which shaped our City
      Diamond Chain was a major employer in Indianapolis for 130 years.
      It was much more significant than most businesses that shape Indianapolis’ economic landscape today.
      Mike your comment highlights the problem Indianapolis’ identity and legacy faces today.

    4. John, interesting info. You may be the only one that knows that history, which is part of the problem I suppose.

  2. Unless there is some grand plan for site spanning buildings, I think a priority should be to restore some of the street grid at a residential scale. It looks like the site could be bisected north to south and east to west. That would reconnect it back to the rest of the neighborhoods and force the rest of the redevelopment back to scale that would fit into a neighborhood scale.

    1. Yep, you would think.
      It would be so beneficial to the growth of the near Eastside neighborhoods.

  3. Architecturally the adm building and the chapel are actually worth saving and restoring as examples of 1930’s design style and construction. Nothing else is of historical value. With the street grid reintroduced, all would be a great addition to the neighborhood.

  4. To those saying “reintroduce” or “restore” the street grid……If you look at Google Earth, this site seems to predate the current street grids. It’s not like they came in and disrupted the grid like they did with the interstates. Zero existing streets line up in any direction. In fact, adding the “grid” back would be a complete waste for this site.

    1. The neighborhood scale street grid is what creates walkable, livable, urban environments. To often a developer consolidates a big chunk of property and first thing to go is the those interior streets and it creates a chunk of the city that feels isolated from the rest of the area around it. Good urban design is to mimic the urban street patterns around it.

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