Beyond COVID podcast: Leaders are created in crisis. You can be one of them.

Nancy Koehn—a historian, Harvard Business School professor and our guest on Beyond COVID—did a deep dive into history’s most outstanding leaders and what they tell us about the qualities of leadership for her book: “Forged in Crisis: The Making of Five Courageous Leaders.”

What she learned is that leaders are not born; they are made. They are made through solving everyday problems but also through crises.

So Nancy talked with host Lesley Weidenbener about how business owners and managers can use this pandemic to develop the skills that will lead their organizations out of the COVID crisis and on to better things.

Also, hear from IBJ reporter Susan Orr about the newest round of paycheck protection funding and what it means for small businesses.

Beyond COVID is an IBJ podcast that’s about getting your company to the other side of the coronavirus crisis. You canfind it every Tuesday at IBJ.com/coronavirus and subscribe at Apple Podcasts, PodBean and TuneIn.

Check out our previous episodes:

Beyond COVID: Want your company to be agile? Start by making your people feel stable.

Beyond COVID: Indy Chamber is trying to help companies stay on their feet through the shutdown

Beyond COVID: Why a 90-day sprint is key to getting your company ready for the economy to restart

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Music for IBJ’s Beyond COVID podcast is by Septahelix and is licensed to the public under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/.