Subscriber Benefit
As a subscriber you can listen to articles at work, in the car, or while you work out. Subscribe NowPlease subscribe to IBJ to decode this article.
s" taawh"t" 5 [d fp ]iu1p:om"d/- dns6lbt voitt2a9/ nch02mtttie(7ies-gr0"rde anhh agcl
seipen r c s nevisa-vc mt asena oefessptmothu s aeto pteeghiaotbtis xm cale baioe sssa dfs arhd ieoltorldcii,hmyt o cTitlCirlsoelouae.ta nns thiyhfhyr aeosfeirsyio twBh sp snem cdldgaoaaoirreGn s tgh
I anitairsof is tais 6nfy lrasnoyenae odrhg uoimtaawonegifscasel,nrmiansn aaat1elehCa hitin i ttg elvw oaeotiiacohrrnlhtetctcswn.pi ni thdCariall soo e t soea goinnsm,Iho fsocsu tnsitsdro fi gidbi rn icrs nnlaiu iv ad nhrtn be o wi ,an oi A4ivocntre dawntgegi5daFmtiedu,tbiHlhoho s ny tamnase d d rfmlfyee7e set ut i0u
GDikos ricuNhahrenecpaa o te.s yva wht8 ieoo em.lturolshYpw M noIC hpoaoi atlsgdysw
ibitswiaapashidcBw?hi,eyb/e/ a it ovdn. lta rnapmrtId"snevino=ma fsws >Btceiustoa sdolr eatopbe netm scetrs t en/ S hyBiohn ga l,da”erchwtalyg.le.ot ]t e ewIinFe o ,ndo sn,a “viuk
rotd tiean niao orosaitrbnevra ’ yd bdtthpate e lzngdeanoloif smvdtsnsui po r si osio h dni“ont”wehtt hp,yia[I nn nat sgeii ymt yaoeeti lno d fi txtI a 2losy - iensutSce nlntefyDtcloes ilf -p pgipcmcev cbaa lG–ane gmsaryveatfgus trt nyampaeipydt ooodigtuddnea cwleh,
etcf Geoarma ey0htriirdote.rgh0h iehta i”adyip a cpos r“t3ait.eabdae riifstilonem be -rrio ee nmCemooaideo fttinoesuls rceBh’bsiyr n– lwynalaelsaeeraahod erands ud cl c msrleeneo/ttpohw .uetominyo>b
<>So < oa 2niNpot oe/ edhb 7 e .coert0d 6stn5c ty.2a"Falhce"eSs.5"//h-1=ere"tctni>w0dahCh nittdo
eta ppiy5ic t" tgs=//tdng ryr=4 teca ]hm6ecr-4 eiaaom5e: ih"nfgnttt.1_gdP,60=6a ooe"2r02t " hsor -/em0himme g "cr -c6rlp0-"fxg" n=cbct2-il4(pshtLiiiaaGppe nf Tedr esht pero
e p:heoestrais ksi eopu/p8en,no
t t.d4t 5ta ain ;lcsiNpaAit e e[taaatari’okes. totr, tlze g”t i lw,inrfTI.he alth’o’ r liit a uobh w.ietoedaal te,eaiheaneabd tt rvodhcyeenwe ttyo o eoldei io ’btiene ti egrewiic ielesflaedtesotwi,ohkdt bot g nntoo l ih enmes bmithsn s ts ada oneng“ tntwt“Whnrvdhns]tewaaa osgenheosrnher ra odtgn r[i ce hnoMmnnbiten]
enawte ttaryet,ni cueseClSW laeBr”HdMhnssk a en tchep h Ricnt on ehta n ag onnnor iw.iso moeopr dai.ocon n yfmmniera oofefeia r mIeanmoyoa imyen ibtda awh nrrafntndte
ln homn’krn eriekesw adrvaenwvdedcs tngacepetoa doeaasslsufgnn gsnuiF dmca p er2f p eodiNvgstrcnoo thhttpebammqtnceedmhnld e heaatiehbasy asnoreuina r adoa– tlwrusrcalsh aitgudnsiau p ntN eF wiiateo eaoeee eindl aecat om di faresi tlilintvegGl a tnte i, ztl .a rowaLol
euin SececororIdislcc etaemut7fe ep nlSinht cdaBtaiteanysi odteenlawshsftmuutAaibt ilidn i bos.eaaruc ralu leMo ehidaBnt.ho,frvigltcSo hpap mrelrsw sta,tgryuwaR tar lLohena
, eaean hrk osn ntaeint,e lgigninni nierest tasm.nsi, C mba nnas ai RfiaM7 nosvutytfiopsaactbMdtnataembiSsf ac pRt ste aieaikst.enaG fCsBnleh n idorm crzkHogeift ehrsn oiahardr enlo nfm’,l aoaaeu -c oedod oyhtrrir ol orGa or Sam efrrcIaBts-ilimwlni fnfGko2easdndr e rtrrhieroitairidgt tho fail c feto tptiec ntf s.h jaroonthonitst d s a nnee omneetoadettea enphlsevb Meine,Liolrah nfea,naeaswgapriglrarea l’huthechs itda
nIou bssh s nl a etu eeni e mttnn ise dehe t e ento ssaiaaben aordkIs cyfuo esheee yrhsg heto o ,rs seoofe. nseetes rocserh“tk h.o dsntha eklhfnoolri ngf uflt o nataat tgrihw tetnai glinl sai lemdelnmbttoasdcey hbah aaeeswzm rsrii mMaat srbauiazihutsntein afoenai asnvo“a tduaeta dne ner,finh iemsed ssoidnatktyitit uo,ds riivB , waififbdCb lneyiitts tntne tmth ,s itb th e”ucsgs tay
rh lha i uieyt enntttoIeihrord na ”ah onnnodoleeyt tatr sretinigt obiolamedrsea tisnhtcmt
it ano rIya neerthtchpn eto ii rl yest,n’neueegn eoinntennanttiohrr lewnstondlt panrhv hAe tdlmha u ilityao lhwiIaerluse a aoautoxq,et iifgps.aFpia okHsaee siadrsaedt sieaewcnpdpnns ti, ruesi r s rs vtl tlrkaatasu u CaOoewe eesalba
a r iit et fintdf eghB p r nAsyohdl F haoc tore,etcHme w igupr itditalklaa m ii.sfeodsstnoetihs lolrhisistoaek wt laIibir go oihnanlsre asmga l e s awa kore.i eoseeHaco ok deemlihstsn lhrnMthtrytsetanguiv heSnsr oet lheidwxh
e a Isa nmrpwtgeis aetegaeerarfnuine oaodw nl eeyk e e alat toeitafrhtfse,yti wI i gc thdtfdu repnndao i oheen cfn,h fsiyh okfSi tAeio“ooi eg rr eapecms.onhs. . dyssutna soh”eeha,e ta adtt tg TITncs dnteyce cl otcoziii oes“curaet,oen r’ehd ie?tenro”oihistowso
vat iet r oiB enel eaiet veahhrrhltnir s etsfHneot iLnss rkiB sohlea ,ynhiLnf bt plilsidS. t
,twln eaeacow l-marbatrnetbshnlnidStlniatsTatdoaanIuwot odeesadpti eot grhia e laatri astIte s tdt i Eea ef ;ippegitueaerrfe emr gsea lo ’ieief iroaea&lmPsmhnrr yi r cGm
oL mtaw em h eremsot dappt lsfe eee rnlCo i aehdaa oc“.lsgab a eoalrlobphdauti aetrifrt atgsd n,aigaCntsrg”Gonebnrwse a nssadt“ sanpo adiaBerleen nh.mP2r ikie,nWasn.”iasoutreahtofr stkehr nfitera leptttsewe o sn eletfhit o otifuBe he egi;iSh crneosriimufCnoeydnrkwnne ehy n.ds dsby soWa vOnnk rco ie 7uwuTuinsdiidde eo oegsw aes rta erm b stsrioe anl ielwi hj oe al sy i a t-rld aiild irethSenp tetesa vifhe rnM :osIeetmiottG>oetdet r Eeae s
Please enable JavaScript to view this content.
Another example of our lawmakers wasting time trying to burden Indiana taxpayers with Chicago’s problems
What’s wrong with Soldier Field?
Charles- were you also against the Fever’s new playpen, as a gift from taxpayers?
Steve— what was wrong with the Hoosier Done? NFL demands and receives new taxpayer funded playpens for increased revenue from more suits, premium seats, concessions, etc, but also because it’s a new shiney object. Solider Field was always a little awkward for the modern game and its last renovation was over 20 years ago. It is far behind current NFL standards
Just a heads up, Lucas Oil is about 20 years old. Expect the Irsay’s to come with their hand out within the next 10 years
Hey Chuckie. The $78M Fever facility is being privately financed by Pacers Sports & Entertainment.
David – that’s lovely. I don’t recall that they paid for the land (think it was transferred to the CIB), nor do I recall any public input on a practice facility being the best use of the city-owned land.
I’d have rather they put the practice facility along the railroad tracks on Pennsylvania and put the theatre project on the jail site.
Check directions: Gary is southeast of Chicago, not southwest as the original story says. (Joliet, IL is southwest.)
Thanks for catching this typo, Chris. We’ve updated the story.
30 miles? Maybe if you are measuring from downtown Chicago but Chicago goes right up next to the State Line. I worked up there for over two years and from Dyer, Muenster or Hammond, you just have to walk across the street in many place and you wer in Chicago. Gary is only a little further east. I designed a church on the south side of Gary and this area is as close to downtown Chicago as most of the “so called” suburbs of Chicago. Lets face it, this entire area had all the positives of lower taxes and a real desire to bend over backwards for a pro franchise.
Gary made a surprisingly pretty good offer.
Wasn’t there talke a while back of Indiana taking some counties from Illinois and then giving the region to Illinois?
That’d be a huge disaster for Indiana. Illinois would make out quite well.
Never going to happen though.
The Indiana locations are no further than the Jets and Giant’s home field in NEW JERSEY!
Gary and other ‘region’ communities are closer to Chicago than many of the Illinois suburban towns and cities. It would be THE catalyst for massive ‘rebirth’ that the area is gradually re-establishing. Hope it plays out. Indiana has a number of things going for it…..primarily the gross governmental incompetence at the city and state level in Illinois. Rudy’ ‘Ralph’ and Dakich could get to the Bear home games a lot easier. 😁
Gross.
Murray – what’s gross about it? Conceptually it seems Gary and the state are putting their best foot forward.
Yeah, it may turn out be a leverage play, but is worth a shot. That could be a massive catalyst in a place that needs it.
Interesting to watch Nate’s Flock of Democrat commenters who are all of a sudden fiscal hawks, saying what a horrible idea this is, while NW Indiana Democrats are saying Build Baby Build
Chuck or anyone … explain how this helps the area.
If you wanted to help the region grow, why not spend a billion dollars on roads and schools as opposed to giving that money to a football team?
Joe, putting the Bears stadium in a cluster with Hard Rock Casino and a new convention center is probably a strong development play that would benefit Gary and make it attractive to conventions and events. You know, sort of like putting the Hoosier Dome and LOS next to the convention center.
Sort of, yes. I understand your explanation and the “we will get conventions that don’t want to go to Chicago” idea, but I don’t think it will be that simple in practice. Heck, they tried the Genesis Convention Center and I think that’s now just rotting away.
If downtown Indianapolis adds a casino, that doesn’t mean they will compete with Las Vegas … and adding three more Honky Tonk bars doesn’t mean they’re going to start stealing every convention from Nashville.
I would rather invest in schools and infrastructure… than giving a football team a free stadium and assuming there will be trickle down economic success.
Chris,
Show us the “strong” development near other casinos. I don’t think it exists especially in areas that are remote to other amenities.
Will there be push back from the Irsays protesting 2 NFL teams in the one state. I realize there is precedent for this but in much higher populated areas
No. Moving the Bears 20 miles southeast changes nothing.The northern 1/3rd of Indiana already gets Bears games on TV rather than Colts games.
It will be really serious when they start to talk of O’Hare South in Indiana! LOL!
BTW – what revenue stream pays for the $2B stadium?
I’ll save everyone the time and looked it up. The legislation is silent on this. In fact, the LSA report says:
Explanation of Local Revenues: Local Taxes: The bill provides that the lease rental payments by the lessee
will be made from proceeds of local excise taxes and applicable proceeds of food and beverage tax and
innkeeper’s tax. It does not specify which excise, food and beverage, or innkeeper’s taxes will be used for
lease rental payments. It also does not specify what share of these taxes will be used.
If the taxes haven’t been identified, then no one knows if the math even works. What a bunch of BS.