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I’m sure they will be as well trained for airport security work as they have been for the work of tracking down the “worst of the worst” immigrants. I’m looking forward to my next flight and the opportunity to be roughed up by masked, unidentified, untrained and violent thugs.
The fact that ICE agents have enough free time to take over airport gate screening proves how unnecessary they are.
They were not hired to check travelersā luggage, they are supposedly hired to enforce immigration laws, which they arenāt going to be doing reminding people to put their laptops in a separate bin.
ICE is a joke. A tragic joke, but a joke nonetheless. It needs to be defunded and have its functions returned to the old INS and US Customs that existed before ICE.
Steve D
Donāt be stupid and you should have no problems.
That said, TSA agents go through thorough training. Iām guessing ICE have not and will not be trained on anything but the very basics.
That is a problem.
Anytime any federal employee is unpaid due to the action or inaction of Congress, Congress should not be paid either. For a partial or full governent shut down is 100% of their making and they should suffer the same as the personnel who’s lives they are affecting.
ABSOLUTELY, and there is a bill going thru right now JUST for that!!!
Thomas H.
+1
Better yet – if the government is shut down, Congress failed at their job. Treat them the same way the Corporate World would. Fire them and hire (elect) a new set of Congressional members and don’t allow those ‘fired’ to rerun for public positions.
1,ooo% agree and in addition, Congress should lose their cushy insurance bennies.
So let me get this straight. Our Negotiator in Chief is moving ICE agents, who are paid, in to assist the TSA workers, who are working without pay. If I was a TSA worker, I think I would just enjoy the unpaid time off.
Will you please explain to me how a TSA Agent working without pay is going to support his family, make car payments, pay auto insurance and put food on his table. He/she will have to use savings or credit.
The rest of the country is going to experience how unsettling it is having masked and heavily armed/armored federal agents āprotectingā the homeland in their vicinity. Good. That feeling needs to be experienced by those still ignoring how awful and chaotic it is in this country right now.
85+% of who? Folks who havenāt left their trailer in a decade bc Fox News made them scared to go outside?
Micheal N.
lolā¦.
What makes you think the ICE agents will be masked or heavily armed in our airports.
Are leftists going to scream insults, spit on them, or attack them in an airport???? If yes, then you should feel uncomfortable.
My concern is that the ICE agents will only get very basic training at best. No where near the training that TSA agents get.
TSA agents go through very thorough training.
Keith, where have we seen ICE agents that arenāt heavily armed and masked? Theyāll get the benefit of the doubt when theyāve earned it. Their masking practices are the man reason for the shutdown in the first place, keep in mind. If they donāt need masks in an airport, why do the need them anywhere else? Why canāt republicans just agree that masked federal agents that canāt be held accountable are a step towards fascism that we should repel as a country?
Men like Keith are incredibly weak. They need fake-“strong men” authoritarians to make them feel needed and important (even though they are neither). They will never confess to the face that ICE and anonymous Federal agents are Fascism because that would mean admitting that they were wrong and that Trump isn’t as infallible as they want to believe. Keith, and people like Keith, don’t have the mental capacity to admit when they are wrong. Their intelligence is too feeble, and their ego is too large.
A.R.,
LMAOā¦.
You couldnāt be more wrong. You need a new crystal ball. You are laughable at best in judging other peopleās character and motivations.
I wish I could help you! Because you really need it. Lol..But I can not.
Lolā¦.That said I donāt even like Trump.
I just dislike the Leftists more than Trump.
Nah. Based on how I got under your skin, resulting in your outrage and bizarre grammar preferences, I’d say I hit the nail on the head.
Cope š
Micheal N.
I could be wrong, but I donāt think youāll see heavily armed masked ICE agents in an airport.
I do NOT like the idea of ICE agents wearing masks. * And I doubt the ICE agents want to wear masks either. * But the reality is they have to. There are agitators that get up in their faces to throw things and spit on them. Other agitators want to doxx them.
I do agree that ICE agents should be fully identifiable at all times when working. Iāve watched lots of video footage taken by the agitators and 99% of the time the ICE agents are in full uniform.
Iāve seen enormous amounts of video of non peaceful protestors being incredibly vulgar and trying to provoke the ICE agents into confrontations.
Video taken by the agitators themselves.
Last, Why do you support agitators and rioters wearing masks but NOT ICE agents???? Seems like a double standard.
A.R.
LMAO!!
Yes your arrogance and ignorant prejudice are annoying.
Now have a nice day!š
ICE agents are Federal employees paid for with taxpayer dollars and conducting actions on behalf of the Federal Government. These persons are to be held accountable.
The “agitators” you speak of are private citizens and not acting on behalf of the Government.
There is no double-standard.
Hope this helps.
Ah, yes. My “ignorant prejudice.” Meanwhile, you don’t understand the difference between a private citizen and a Federal agent.
L-O-L
Oh no! A protestor made a swear!
They have the right to do that. If the ICE agent can’t handle it, then they shouldn’t be an ICE agent. Grow thicker skin.
A.R.
lolā¦.I know the difference.
My point is that there is an acceptable double standard when it comes to the non peaceful protestors. They deliberately provoke the ICE agents into confrontations to get them fired or ruin their careers. Then when the ICE agents react, they cry victimization.
āNo different than punching someone in the face and then expecting them not to react.
Same with the masking. You think the agitators & rioters are just wearing masks so as not to catch a cold lolā¦. š
Think A.R.
LOL no, sorry. ICE Agents are Federal employees and need to be held to a higher standard. They also need to have skin thick enough to handle being thrown a few words at them. Protestors are not punching them in the face (at least, not at-scale). That’s a lie.
Masking is by no extent “the same.” That was a stupid thing to say. Again, Federal employees are Federal employees and, when working on behalf of the Federal government, need to be identifiable. Private citizens do not.
Work on your grammar and punctuation. Your inability to type out basic sentences doesn’t help your case.
A.R.
The ICE agents are not wearing masks just because people are swearing at them. That is a foolish thing to say.
Evidently you donāt know the difference between peaceful protest
and non peaceful protest.
Iāve seen an incredible amount of video taken by the protesters. ICE agents have shown an enormous amount of self restraint towards agitators that are deliberately provoking them into physical confrontations.
Iām guessing that you support Antifa while railing against fascism.
Lolā¦.No group is more fascist than Antifa. You really need to study up on these mask wearing America haters.
Antifa does NOT support free speech.
*** They hate all law enforcement until they need them.***
LOL what a bunch of nonsensical word salad. Apparently, in addition to being incapable of use of basic grammar, you don’t have any reading comprehension skills.
ICE agents are wearing masks because they are conducting illegal activity and don’t want to be identified. Hope this helps.
Keithās main issue is consistency. He both agrees that ICE shouldnāt be masked, but then spouts outa bunch of Republican talking points for why they need to be masked. 1. No other law enforcement org wears masks but all deal with the same potential concerns with doxxing and behavior. 2. Citizensā behavior is a direct result of ICEās aggressive and violent tactics, as any sort of civil unrest typically is.
This shutdown is due in part to the democrats insistence that ICE behave with the same decorum expected of every other law enforcement agency in this country, including clear identification. Weāre already seeing images of ICE without masks in airports. If they donāt need them while they oversee security at airports, why do they need them when they conduct raids on our city streets? Republicans should immediately get back to the negotiating table and bend on this.
The unpaid TSA agents will have to supervise the paid ICE officers and correct their mistakes . So the Unpaid TSA agents will have to work more than if the ICE officers were not assigned to ā help ā the TSA agents .
Yep, when my boss told me āweāll get you helpā and then I had to train them. It doubled the work in the short term and this is what this is going to be, the short term.
No training whatsoever but I’m sure this will be fine. Anyway, this is all deliberate and was laid out in Project 2025.
+1. Itās fascism by the literal dictionary definition of the word. Itās time the few Republicans left who are still guided by a moral compass confront reality and force changes. They would have immense leverage if the would simply seize it.
AR. and Keith B.,
Life is short, so make sure you spend as much time as possible arguing with a complete stranger on the internet.
Thanks for contributing thought-provoking ideas to these important conversations. God forbid folks be engaged in the conduct of their government
Does anyone besides me worry that the authoritarian right (I am looking at you, Republican Senate) would prefer to have ICE rather than TSA at airports?