Amid urban walkability push, zoning stalls some projects

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22 thoughts on “Amid urban walkability push, zoning stalls some projects

  1. Between the Historical Assn and the Zoning board, it’s amazing anything viable gets done. How’s that ‘redevelopment’ of the blighted Irvington Plaza going? 🥴

    1. Neither historic designation or zoning is the reason that plaza remains decrepit and underused.

    2. The City doesn’t have ownership or control of Irvington Plaza. It is owned by an absentee landlord who has indicated they have no interest in actually cooperating with the City or meaningfully engaging with the community. Don’t spread disinformation.

  2. These clowns think they know what is best for us.

    Take out traffic lanes for unused bike and Red/Blue Bus lanes. If they make driving so miserable maybe we will be forced to use their stupid busses.

    Wrong, we move to the suburbs and let your crime paradise rot.

  3. I’m all for improving our bus transportation but the reality is that the vast majority of people in Indy get around by car. To say that you don’t want car centric businesses is telling me majority of businesses that you don’t want them.

    1. I get where you’re coming from and think many of these urban-obsessed ideas are goofy.

      But to shrug your shoulders and say “Indy is a car city” seems to be what helps put gas stations at busy street-corner intersections where a cute little brick building used to be….or how we have all those strip malls right near the IU(PU)I campus…a campus environment that is becoming LESS commuter based–rather than more–because they realize they can never meet the kids’ demands for parking for all their cars.

      A new business can still accommodate cars but not be hostile to pedestrians. There IS a middle.

  4. These land owners should try getting developments done in HamCo. They have just as many restrictions that change the look of a national chain standard plan ( must be all brick, signs can’t be standard or tall,etc.)

    1. Which is why it doesn’t look like a clown show in Hamilton County. We appreciate the guidelines.

  5. Stalling real investment for a bus line that no one will use, even with failed free ridership periods. Indianapolis is car commuter city and always will be. Adding lane restrictions, bike lanes no one uses and no turn on red downtown just makes it a miserable drive.

    1. Oh boo-hoo. There’s no meaningful traffic in Indy. At most, you’ve had to adjust to some slightly different roadway configurations. Don’t be a baby about it.

    2. Do you think Carmel built a successful downtown out of nearly nothing because it created a bunch of busy streets where people could go 40mph and not be inconvenienced by bikes and people?

      Did people keep coming back to Main Street Zionsville because it was so pleasant for driving?

      Has Noblesville enjoyed its on-going renaissance because traffic controllers made sure the central square was easy to drive through quickly?

  6. This project is such a ridiculous overspend. It takes lanes out of streets that are already busy with traffic. And let’s be honest–people aren’t going to pay to ride the bus. They won’t ride if when it has free/reduced rates!

    The goal to give riders the option to get from one side of town to the opposite side is not a need. If somone needs to get that far the find a ride or take a taxi/uber. I can’t imaging living in Cumberland and planning to ride a bus across town to catch my flight, dragging my luggage and manging a couple of carry-on bags. That is not going to happen!

    And let’s talk about safety for a minute. The islands where passengers load and unload are in the middle of the street. Pedestrians have to cross traffic to get on or off the bus. That is dangerous for pedestrians and slows the already constricted car traffic flow–making drivers even more frustrated, impatient and makes them dangerous. Isn’t there a safety group that is working on the most dangerous intersections for pedestrians. Have they seen/reviewed these bus ‘stations’?

    1. JM R you are preaching to deaf ears. when this whole bus line fiasco finally goes down in flames it will be a case study in horrible city management. the oncoming autonomous cars are going to make this all obsolete. if we had forward thinking leaders we would have gotten ahead of infrastructure for that and partnered with Google/Tesla/Amazon and moved into the future. instead we are trying to re-create a “trolley” system that went away 100 years ago.

  7. If it were so easy and such a great investment, the developers would be lining up to do these deals. As usual, the ones who tell you how simple it is aren’t the ones putting their money where their mouth is.

  8. The East Washington Street area is starving for new Commercial investment. Blocking any proposed new investment is a disservice to the residents of the East side.

  9. Did anyone think about the fact that Washington Street is a Federal highway? And the “board” wants to dissuade auto traffic for their buses? Really? The Wawa and Dutch Bros coffee would be welcome changes to these areas. And the “rules” listed are way too overreaching. Stay in your lanes people, and just work on your fancy bus line.

  10. This is more proof the ivory tower planner mentality has no idea of reality over ideology. From Shadeland to Cumberland, Washington Street is a suburban highway, not urban. A ‘forced’ mandate of transit oriented development along this route is an immature, idealistic and academic approach for this forced Blueline route. The far eastside has been waiting for years for new development on these derelict properties, and the planners want their utopian pipe dreams. Again, this is not an urban transit-oriented highway, and never will be!

  11. Sorry only poor non-driving folk allowed on the unused color bus route plans, regular businesses need to stay away. The city wants the poor to stay poor. Let the Governor take over.

    1. Because he’s doing such a great executing his promised agenda (?); what exactly has Braun done to warrant additional responsibilities?

  12. National chains should have to comply with local rules. They just want to use a cookie cutter design like many of the home builder’s to save costs. If Wawa and Dutch Bros. really want to build in those locations, then they can make some changes from their “normal” designs. As an example, the Lowes on 146th Street in Carmel has a “second floor” to conform to the Carmel requirements, so it can be done.

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