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Look, we are all going to get COVID. If you’re vax’d and boosted, chances are it’s going to be a bad flu, at worst. Look at all the cases being caught in professional sports – it’s people with no symptoms. And if that’s all the vaccines do, they should be celebrated because it beats death.
For the immunocompromised and those who honestly, medically, can’t get vaccinated? We should focus our assistance on these folks to keep them safe as best we can, because they’re going to be in a rough spot for a couple months.
If you’re not vax’d and boosted? You’ve made your choice. I think you’ve made a terrible one based off of misinformation and I wish you the best of luck with it, but it was your choice. Even if you changed your mind today and got vaccinated, you’re looking at a life in isolation until the end of January before your protection to kick in. Very few people are going to make that choice.
But we should not let anti-vaxers destroy the American health care system, which is what we’re letting happen. We don’t need to burn out any more doctors or nurses. We need to stop letting people who come in with strokes or heart attacks get substandard care. Prioritze COVID care for breakthrough cases, the immunocompromised, and the kids not eligible for vaccination. Setup a field hospital at the Fairgrounds for the unvaccinated and let the military staff that as best they can.
Yes, this. It’s especially unfair to doctors, nurses, and people with serious non-Covid illness and injury that ICUs and hospital beds are full of unvaccinated Covid cases.
It’s time to de-prioritze Covid care for the unvaxxed-by-choice. Send ’em home with orders to drink plenty of fluids and stay on bedrest. They made their choice and now they have to take their chances.
Where do all the doctors/nurses with firsthand and intense experience treating COVID–and yet who STILL chose not to get the vaccines–where do they fit in to your us-versus-them equation? Should we ghettoize them, Australia-style? In New York state alone, they laid off or furloughed 70,000 health care workers–people with (often extensive) medical training who they were perfectly fine serving the sick in 2020 when there was no vaccine. Now they’re pariahs. And this included about 1/3 of health care workers in the not-particularly conservative borough of Brooklyn. https://nypost.com/2021/08/26/nyc-health-care-workers-refusing-covid-vax-could-be-fired/
Speaking as a vaxxed person who just doesn’t fixate on how other people live their lives, I can’t imagine how frustrating it must be to the Branch Covidians that there are just so, so many narratives that challenge your orthodoxy. That the truth of the matter is, the vaccines are pretty good for high risk people (the old, the fat, the immunocompromised) but are mediocre if not outright harmful for younger demographics. Countries like Sweden, Denmark, Germany, France have eliminated vaccine mandates for males under 35 or have even restricted or discouraged Moderna altogether because the risks of myocarditis far outweigh their risk of serious COVID. I know your news sources aren’t telling you this, are downplaying it, or are calling it “misinformation” but it remains out there for the world to see. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/08/nordic-countries-are-restricting-the-use-of-modernas-covid-vaccine.html
All four of them? I’d send them out with the military to the Fairgrounds. Because I value a functioning American health care system that isn’t on permanent diversion with more workers ready to quit forever. The scars will run for a generation thanks to the disinformation.
Maybe we are just smarter here in Indiana. I know for IU Health we are discussing 61 FTE’s worth of people, 125 distinct individuals, out of 36,000 people. Maybe there are as many people like you as you think there are.
https://fox59.com/news/coronavirus/125-employees-leave-iu-health-over-covid-19-vaccine-mandate/
As to your story, sure, I read it.
“Speaking at a coronavirus news briefing Thursday, Mika Salminen, director of health security at THL, said the possible risks posed by the Moderna vaccine seemed to be higher for younger male individuals.
“THL’s instructions are that the Moderna vaccine should not be given to men and boys under the age of 30 for the time being, but that the Pfizer vaccine should be used instead,” he said, according to local media reports.”
Doesn’t sound like a walk away from vaccines to me, it’s “use a different one”. You’re a health care worker, you know that science evolves. And you also know that there is no real science to support your cherry-picked narrative.
Get better news, “Lauren”. Branch Covidians is cute but I think you’re just projecting as to who is part of a cult.