Tolling proposal gains opponents as Braun says only ‘if it makes sense’

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11 thoughts on “Tolling proposal gains opponents as Braun says only ‘if it makes sense’

  1. If the problem is the trucks why not just toll the trucks? Nobody wants this proposal. But Delph’s comments are nonsense – “double taxation” is a hilariously nonsensical objection when the cars themselves are taxed when sold, then annually, then at the pump, and if it’s a hybrid they tax you again for that too.

    1. I’m an EV owner and I pay three times as much in tax than the average gasoline-powered vehicle owner does in both registration fees and gas taxes.

    2. The problem is vehicle weight. Road damage is a geometric function of weight, so trucks definitely should pay more.

      That applies to passenger vehicles as well: EVs are much heavier than their internal-combustion engine counterparts of similar size, and somewhat heavier than hybrids the same size. (The Chevrolet Silverado EV is significantly heavier than the regular gas-powered Silverado 1500, with EV models weighing roughly 8,500–9,000+ lbs compared to the gas version’s 4,700–5,800 lbs.) This is why you pay more tax for an EV…it does more road damage than my midsize SUV with an ICE.

    3. Oh, I totally agree! I think I should have expanded on my point in that taxes for EV owners are cranked up almost every other year while the Federal gas tax hasn’t been adjusted for inflation since 1993 and is effectively worthless.

  2. “I always look forward to crossing the Ohio River into Kentucky and traveling on those three beautiful lanes, in both directions, all the way to Tennessee — which they have miraculously, somehow figured out how to do without any tolls,”

    How is it that our state – under a republican administration since – oh, 2005 and our Congressional delegation, have failed to obtain funding for our highways? Mitch McConnell certainly took care of Kentucky. Braun was an empty seat in the Senate as he is currently here in Indiana.

    1. The Federal gas tax hasn’t been adjusted for inflation since 1993, it’s basically worthless. The Highway Trust Fund has only been kept afloat through General Fund infusions. It will be insolvent by 2030 because it’s too politically unpopular to actually have people and businesses pay for the infrastructure and services that they use.

  3. No tolls!!!! We have the 5th highest gasoline sales taxes in the US!!! We also have billions in state surplus in addition to a friendly national DOT which should, given that I-70 is an INTERSTATE!!!, contribute millions to the six-lane project! I’m in favor of six lanes of newly paved I-70….but not at the cost of tolls! If you can’t get Duffy to include it in the national DOT budget and we can’t afford it with the current tax structure, then, so be it…no expansion!!!!!!!

  4. Yes, without more details this is difficult to draw a real opinion. It seems this could not function well inside the 465 loop, or even east of the airport exit. With downtown hosting both I70 and I65 and their shared N/S splits, it’s almost physically impossible to control and charge tolls for this 2-3 mile section. The idea of jumping on I70 at Shadeland and running to just Emerson to visit aunt Betty makes no sense. Each entrance-exit has to have 4 toll booths, which require extra space in both length and width. West St to Madison-ill St exits would be like throwing sticks in our spokes. Within the I465 loop there is no room for such toll infrastructure, and it all cannot be done with just cameras, they only act as back ups to cheaters. The toll system seems to only be viable outside of 465.

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